Originally posted by plawrence:
Let's wait for it to be born and be a baby or, at the very least, be viable outside of the womb, before we start calling it a baby.
Until then, AFAIC, it's still part of the woman's body, very much physically attached to the woman's body, and totally dependent on the woman's body for even a chance to ever become a baby.
Arguing about "when life begins" does not "trivialize" or "rationalize" the subject.
That's really the crux of the whole argument, because I'm certain that there is no one who favors pro-choice that also favors killing babies.
But IMO, a fetus is not a human being, a person, or even a baby.
It's a completely unique organism, a significant step in between sperm (there's live stuff in there, isn't there?) and the unfertilized egg, and a baby.
And aborting a fetus is not the same as "murdering" or "slaughtering" a baby.
Sorry, Plaw, but science is not on your side. Your idea of "not being a human being, a person, or even a baby" doesn't stand up. From the time of conception, a baby has 46 chromosomes, which is the unique genetic signature of a human being. All of its DNA, its genomes, are all in place. There is no question of what it is growing into.By your logic, this means that children themselves aren't humans, because, after all, they aren't fully grown and developed.
Arguing about when life begins certainly does rationalize and trivialize the subject - otherwise, it forces abortionists to admit they are killing a living human being. By concocting some non-scientific argument about how life "doesn't begin until after birth" is not only factually incorrect but, when used for the purpose of promoting infanticide, morally reprehensible.
Again, you are wholly incorrect when you say that a baby (or "fetus" or "zygote" or whatever stage in development you wish to say) is a "completely unique organism," because it is not. Why are premature babies "humans" then? Wouldn't they be some other, alien life form, by this logic?
I have to say Plaw, I'm suprised you'd be willing to make such bold, unsubstantiated statements, especially when the facts are against you.
Cheers,
Double-J
