I consider you a kid, I consider myself a kid. Saying Kid isn't an insult. When I first came here plaw called me Kid all the time, I didn't take offense to it.

Oh and BTW, Since it's perfectly okay for you to respond to people's post with a or say I didn't even bother reading your post then I think it's more than acceptable for me to simply read the first line and none of the rest.

Right, but you're on good terms with plaw and you both have respect for each other. Can't say that DC and I have the same compassion for each other. However, this isn't the topic, so I'm going to go and take a shower and return if I'm needed. Don't run off on me now!

See Pat, that's your problem. You don't know how to talk to people. "Don't run off on me now" what makes you think I would have respect for you when you write things like that. Respect is not given, it is EARNED. you have most definitly NOT earned it with your sarcasm and choice of words.

Oh, lighten up! It's 1:30 in the morning and I even put a ' .' It was a joke. Get over it. Now I'm going to take my shower. In my best Arnold voice, "I'LL BE BACK."

Oh, lighten up! It's 1:30 in the morning and I even put a ' .' It was a joke. Get over it. Now I'm going to take my shower. In my best Arnold voice, "I'LL BE BACK." [/b][/quote]That's fine if you meant it as a joke, but I take it as being sarcastic and talking down to me. It was just an example, me and plaw (sorry to drag you into this plaw) have respect for each other because we constantly show each other respect. I'm trying to show you that you can't expect to have everyone's respect, it is earned. When you are at a job you might say something that you think is being funny but it offends someone, you have to show respect to get respect. Saying things like Good Day Sir and things like that come off TO ME as very sarcastic and cocky, definitly not whats going to get you respect.

How is addressing someone as 'sir' being cocky? Are you serious?

This thread sucks. I blame "emo" music. You guys listen to too much of that shit. :p

The Doc

P.S. You wanna get emotional? Look at how much more money these "emo" singer pricks make than you. I'm crying my god damn eyes out here!

Come on Pat, are you really going to take that position?

You are going to say with a straight face that: Good Day Sir Have a nice day Good Day etc.. are showing respect?

Come on Pat, are you really going to take that position?

You are going to say with a straight face that: Good Day Sir Have a nice day Good Day etc.. are showing respect? [/b][/quote]I'm still in my original position.

What is showing respect than? 'Good day sir' and 'have a nice day' are just things I say. No disrespect at all.

You knew exactly what I meant when I said take that position, but of course you have to respond with some smart comment like that.
I can only speak for myself and when I see things like have a good day with afterwards it comes off to me as sarcasm and talking down to someone.

DMC - WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? Seriously. Way to totally go off topic too. I've made no 'sarcastic' comments or disrespectful remarks. All of my replies have been made in a sincere way. This is about the time I'd say, "Good day sir," but I don't want you to take it wrong. Sheesh.

What bothers me Pat is that you're calling Mad Johnny Anti-American because he criticizes American teens not developing well. SO!? And who said anything about the rest of the world? He was talking about AMERICA.

Do you really have to call him 'the kid'? You can of course, but it sounds so denegrating. [/b][/quote]Obviously you have this problem of not being able to distinguish business from personal. If someone disagrees with you on an issue, who have this habit of taking it very personally and you immedeatly bite back with a defensive attitude.

And that is why several others, including myself, do not consider you mature. Because you just cannot seem to argue or debate someone wihtout having hard feelings.

You have a problem seperating a disagreement with personal feelings. One has nothing to do with the other. Heck, how many times do you see Plaw and I lock horns on various issues, sometimes getting very heated with each other in our disagreements. But I still repsect Plaw and consider him a good friend. We may not agree with each other's views, but our maturity allows us to still remain friends and respect one another.


That's where you lack the maturity Pat. You cannot seperate your personal feelings from a disagreement about an issue. And you show it in how you reply. You are the one who has the problem with me, not I with you, kid!

Pat, your being offended of my calling you a kid is very confusing to me.

Here is the definition of kid : "a youthful expert; -- chiefly used attributively; as, kid Jones."

So you actually should take my calling you kid Pat as a compliment becasue I consider you a youthful expert!


Don Cardi

Wow... I'm hiding behind a computer? Lenox and E 132nd. If you can figure aout where that is you can figure out what country I'm from.

Stop whining.

Cardi, it is convenient that you found a definition for "kid" (of which there are many, according to the site or dictionary you look in) which patronisingly compliments Pat. But you had absolutely no idea that you were calling him a "youthful expert." I'd even go so far as to say you'd cringe at the thoughts of calling Pat an expert at anything. Stop patronising the kid.

That said, I find "kid" no more offensive than "sir". Or no less offensive. Both are terms of address, and both were used belittlingly or sarcastically.

And, while I'm pissing on this shit pile, I may as well shake some dribbles on another brief subject. An example of confusing "business" and "personal" issues can be seen no better in a certain list of September 9/11 victims in another thread, which happens to be just as ugly as this one. So forget trying to teach Patrick the ways of productive arguement.

Respect. What a load of bollocks.

A super-short conclusive coda: let's get rid of the smileys.

Capo, you know absolutely nothing about me. And you know absolutely nothing about what I really know. So don't ASSume.

You may impress everyone here with your fancy writing style and your use of smart words, but you don't impress me one bit. The use of fancy words or fancy writing does not mean that you are as educated as you would like everyone here to think that you are. And if you and your other buddy are so offended that I posted a list of 3000 human beings who were murdered and should not be forgotten, then it's too fucking bad. Don't read it if you don't like it. I'm sure that if I had posted a list of the Iraqi civilians that were killed during this war, you and your mate over there would have had no objection whatsoever.

So take your fancy words, your "elite" :rolleyes: style of writing and use them to impress your little buddies like Pat.

You don't fool me one bit.


Don Cardi

I'm reposting this for DC!

This thread sucks even more now. I'm all depressed and sad because of all the dumb fighting. I went out and got like 20 "emo" cds. These guys understand my pain and help me cry.

The Doc

P.S. Who's got the bigger dick here? That might solve this problem.

If that's the case, I win the debate Ferro. :p

But seriously, the same can be said for many artists. Does that mean they can't write sad songs? Neil Young had some sad songs, and they were great. It's not that these bands are more emotional in their music, it's the fusion between emotional lyrics and punk rock-ish sounds.

As I said I'm not a fan of the genre at all, but I think people misinterpret what it is.

By the way, isn't it fun how a thread doing a parody of people who change their lifestyle with Emo turned into an Anti-American thread?

Got 100 guns, 100 clips, nigga. You're from New York, New York .

But seriously, the same can be said for many artists. Does that mean they can't write sad songs? Neil Young had some sad songs, and they were great. It's not that these bands are more emotional in their music, it's the fusion between emotional lyrics and punk rock-ish sounds.
[/quote]They can write all the music they want. Good? Who knows. Was I joking when I said that? Yes. Is my dick huge? You bet.

The Doc

Just checking.

PS: My dick's bigger than yours.

Cardi, that's the second time in months you've belittled my writing style. You also said "Excellent writing" in the thread I posted by published story. Typically self-contradictory.

It's also the second time you've said ASSume. Like a typical Hollywood film, spelling everything out to your audience just in case they don't get it. You're about as subtle as a fucking hammer to the skull. Make that an Iraqi terrorist's skull, if the metaphor doesn't sit comfortably with you otherwise.

I make no effort to fool you. That's why I never say "my friend" when arguing with you, like you often do with me. And fuck the fact that you're being "respectful". You have an utter lack of self-perception.

So yeah, go and tell me that I don't know you or anything about you (apart from the fact you lost loved ones in the 9/11 attacks) again. You could also, perhaps, in your fine and mature wisdom, tell me something I don't already know. I've never claimed to know anything about you. I was commenting on the way you post.

Disgustingly.

Fancifully yours,
Mick

Do you really have to call him 'the kid'? You can of course, but it sounds so denegrating. [/b][/quote]Obviously you have this problem of not being able to distinguish business from personal. If someone disagrees with you on an issue, who have this habit of taking it very personally and you immedeatly bite back with a defensive attitude. [/b][/quote]Since you quoted me too, I assume (and not ASSume) this remply was also to me. Whether you agree with me and call me kid, or don't agree with me and call me kid, I wouldn't like the both of them.
I think there's a very negative connotation in that word. Like I can participate and say something good, but you're still feeling yourself in the position of an elderly and more wise person.
Maybe others (like DMC) like being called a kid, I don't. And I've seen Pat doesn't like it either.

No enzo it has nothing to do with "liking" to be called Kid. The term Kid is RELATIVE, an 85 year old person will say "that kid in the store" when that kid is 35 years old.

It seems to me like a lot of you have a complex or some type of problem where being called "young adult" makes you feel special or something.

Godfather Take 365 Flash back

Mom- me their fighting again!


Now, this is what a real open forum is all about.
I am glad I stopped in to see it before they lock yet another thread up.

Happy Holiday to all.

Did you ever notice that it is the same people fighting all the time?
Some people really do need to get a life!
and like Santa says, and to all a good night!

Why are they so offended? They are kids.


DS

I'm glad you finally got one. Get back to it. Your post was as superfluous as ever.

Why are we so offended? You're the one who gets your pants in a bunch as soon as someone criticizes Bush or the war!

Guys, why is this still going on? Me and Vercetti already agreed that we have gigantic, bulbous penises. Just accept it guys. Sorry.

The Doc