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Re: Terrorists kill 58 people in India
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11/03/05 12:41 PM
11/03/05 12:41 PM
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Double-J
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Originally posted by svsg:
Although this thread has digressed very far from its original topic, I would like to know your views on Pakistan in the context of the points raised by you as quoted above. India has been maintaining all along that the terrorists(including the group responsible for this attack) in the state of Kashmir at the Indo-Pak border are actively trained and funded by Pakistan. Let us, for the moment, not discuss whether this official Indian position is true or not. Assume it anyway you wish. But the reason I ask your view on pakistan is that US has been an long time ally of pakistan. What distinction do you think Pakistan has that separates it from other Islamic nations. And what are your thoughts on the leader of that country and the form of government there?
Thanks,
svsg In my opinion, I have no doubt that terrorists affiliated with Al Qaeda in Pakistan. Or Syria. Or Lebanon. Considering they border Afghanistan, would it be entirely surprising if former Taliban members were hiding and actively participating in terror cells in Pakistan? I wouldn't doubt if there was Pakistani funding of these terrorists - considering that these two nations are virtually prepared to nuke each other over Kasmir, it wouldn't surprise me if they were trying to use these kind of tactics to weaken the resolve of the other side. These nations have been fighting since the British mandate was split in 1947. They are also one of the more notorious drug trafficking nations in the area, with opium being of huge illicit profits. Musharraf has taken power in a similar way to Fulgencio Batista in Cuba, where his military just walked in and assumed control, suspending the constitution. Although he is an ally in the US, and has received votes of legitimacy and confidence from his government, it isn't necessarily a situation that is in line with plurality and democracy ideals supported by the United States. It is also questionable as to whether his committment to hunting down terrorists in his nation is legitimate. I think though, the United States is willing to take Islamic nations that are friendly to the U.S., even if it means sacrificing the values we stand for. It isn't unprecedented.
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Re: Terrorists kill 58 people in India
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11/03/05 12:47 PM
11/03/05 12:47 PM
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plawrence
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Originally posted by Double-J:
I think though, the United States is willing to take Islamic nations that are friendly to the U.S., even if it means sacrificing the values we stand for. It isn't unprecedented. I don't understand the above. I think you may have "mis-wrote" something there.
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Re: Terrorists kill 58 people in India
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11/03/05 10:16 PM
11/03/05 10:16 PM
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Double-J
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Originally posted by plawrence:
[quote]Originally posted by Double-J:
[b]I think though, the United States is willing to take Islamic nations that are friendly to the U.S., even if it means sacrificing the values we stand for. It isn't unprecedented. I don't understand the above. I think you may have "mis-wrote" something there. [/b][/quote]Rewriting... The U.S. is willing to ally with nations who don't have the same ideas of plurality and democracy in exchange for economic ties or political stability in a region (read: Batista's Cuba, Somoza's Nicaragua, etc.)
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