I'm as definite as I can be for something that is nine months away, which is probably really all that anyone can say at this point.

I'd hate to be the one with a last minute problem or emergency that kills the group rate for everyone else.

The question still is, I think, if at the last minute we fall short with the size of our group do we have to pay the regular rate, and what exactly is the regular rate?

DC said he thought it was $200. If the choice is between $119 at the Wyndham, guaranteed, or $89 at the Hilton, but if we fall short with our group size we have to pay $200, I'd prefer the Wyndham.

Actually, though, here's a thought:

Let's say there are 7 of us, for the sake of argument.

At $119 per room at the Wyndham, it costs a total of $833.

If we have to book 9 rooms at the other place to get the group rate of $89, it only costs us $801 total, even if no one stays in the two extra rooms. So we save $32.

But if there are 7 of us and we can get the group rate by booking 8 rooms, we save $121 (7 x $119 vs. 8 x $89).

We could set up one of the rooms as a hospitality suite.....food, booze, dancing girls.....