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Any Given Sunday #118960
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I watched it for the first time yesterday after buying the DVD it was the only remaining Pacino DVD missing from my collection but I have to say I give it about a 4/10 not just because it was about American 'football' either, what do you guys' think of it?

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It's not an excellent movie but some scenes are good. especially the ending, how he took Willie with him to his own club. I advice you to see it again.


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It's not an excellent movie but some scenes are good. especially the ending, how he took Willie with him to his own club. I advice you to see it again.
Maybe you are right I just did not like it at all when i watched it yesterday, Cameron Diaz's character was annoying, Oliver Stone commentator cameo, was shameful, but Al was great as usual so maybe I will watch it again.


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...a 4/10 not just because it was about American 'football' either
Why does it having to do "American" Football make it bad?

Otherwise, Any Given Sunday is pretty bad. Pacino was good, but otherwise this film film was a 4/10, or **.

The ONLY movie I've ever walked out on.


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I don't understand why everyone hates this film so much. I haven't seen it in some time but I remember liking it a lot. From my memory it was a great depiction of the MTV-worship of athletes, and didn't just focus on the athletes. The "Inches" monologue was probably the best moment.

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4/10 not just because it was about American 'football' either, what do you guys' think of it?
I echo, what's wrong with American football?


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Oliver Stone commentator cameo, was shameful,
As shameful as being one of the men the suicide bomber killed in his Platoon cameo?


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[quote]4/10 not just because it was about American 'football' either, what do you guys' think of it?
I echo, what's wrong with American football?
[/quote]You've got to understand that American Football is not very popular outside of the US. I love American Football but it's a rarity for anyone in England to like it. So it's pretty normal for someone here to avoid or dislike films based on a sport they don't like especially one as complex as this. I wouldn't want to watch a similar film about baseball. The majority of the US would say the same about a football (soccer) film.

Any Given Sunday is a good film but nothing special. I didn't think too much of it when I first saw it but the repeat viewing was much better. I could easily watch it again.


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Actually Turi, I know that I wouldn't dislike a soccer film becuase it's played predominantley in Latin America and Europe, and this is coming form a yank. We are taught in our schools how to play soI can guess many people wouund't be turned off because of it been foreign.

However, about "Any Goven Sunday"... It's certainly one of Olie Stone's best films. It's about excess, triumph, and many of the core things about humanity. It presents us great charecters, with amazing editing and wll-done direction and a good script. Three & a half stars.


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Any GIven Sunday is one of my personal favorites. It provides an extreme exageration inside the world of pro football, but at the same time, it is strikingly accurate. The film is choked with terrefic actors and amazing performances. To a certain point, this might be considered a cult film. It seems that only the truly hardcore football fans love it.

9/10


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Any GIven Sunday is one of my personal favorites. It provides an extreme exageration inside the world of pro football, but at the same time, it is strikingly accurate. The film is choked with terrefic actors and amazing performances. To a certain point, this might be considered a cult film. It seems that only the truly hardcore football fans love it.

9/10
Its NOT a 'football' film!


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[quote]Originally posted by raggingbull2003:
[b] Any GIven Sunday is one of my personal favorites. It provides an extreme exageration inside the world of pro football, but at the same time, it is strikingly accurate. The film is choked with terrefic actors and amazing performances. To a certain point, this might be considered a cult film. It seems that only the truly hardcore football fans love it.

9/10
Its NOT a 'football' film! [/b][/quote]Mind explaining?


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maybe he should have wrote "american football" :rolleyes:


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Quote:
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[quote]Originally posted by raggingbull2003:
[b] Any GIven Sunday is one of my personal favorites. It provides an extreme exageration inside the world of pro football, but at the same time, it is strikingly accurate. The film is choked with terrefic actors and amazing performances. To a certain point, this might be considered a cult film. It seems that only the truly hardcore football fans love it.

9/10
Its NOT a 'football' film! [/b][/quote]How in the hell is this not a football movie? Almost every little thing in it is football.


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Don't worry Raging Bull. I can see the argument now: "You Americans think you dominate the world". I can see it amounting to this before the day is out.


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Don't worry Raging Bull. I can see the argument now: "You Americans think you dominate the world". I can see it amounting to this before the day is out.
exactly! If he wants to start an argument about "american" football vs "european" football then just don't respond to him.

It's a pointless argument to start and it's obviously where he is going with it.


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What happened to this?
hasn't everyone said that lol


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Re: Any Given Sunday #118976
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What happened to this?
Show me and this topic some respect Vercetti, stop being so sensitive, the only place that this film is considered a football film is america.


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...the only place that this film is considered a football film is america.
Why do you say that? The sport they are playing is Football, Al Pacino plays a Football coach, Virtually everything in this film has to do with Football, so why isn't it considered a Football film?


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Because the rest of the world calls what you call 'soccer' football, And the sport depicted in the film is only referred to as football by yourselves.


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Because the rest of the world calls what you call 'soccer' football, And the sport depicted in the film is only referred to as football by yourselves.
Didn't you see that Gatorade commercial, "Football is Football, even if it's Football."

You hate a film and a sport, because of one word. :rolleyes:


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If you had been smart enough to refer to my first post, I said I did not just hate the film purely on that basis.


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It was certainley one reason why.


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It was certainley one reason why.
But you just said I hate a film because of one word. When clearly I do not. I love America/Americans but you are being way too sensitive over this.


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[quote]Originally posted by Don Vercetti:
[b] What happened to this?
Show me and this topic some respect [/b][/quote]I'm not disrespecting this topic, but if you think I'm gonna show you respect you're in for a rude awakening. The film is a football movie, just as an English Rugby movie would be a Rugby movie. You're the one who is too sensitive with you're classification of what is football.


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Quote:
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[quote]Originally posted by Tony Kyprianou:
[b] [quote]Originally posted by Don Vercetti:
[b] What happened to this?
Show me and this topic some respect [/b][/quote]I'm not disrespecting this topic, but if you think I'm gonna show you respect you're in for a rude awakening. The film is a football movie, just as an English Rugby movie would be a Rugby movie. You're the one who is too sensitive with you're classification of what is football. [/b][/quote]Its not a football film, end of story, real football is not played with helmets and crotch guards. Now show me some loyalty and I will give you a pass.


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Then what the hell do you call the sport that is played with Helmets and Crotch Guards? Sir Sportsman, almighty?


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Then what the hell do you call the sport that is played with Helmets and Crotch Guards? Sir Sportsman, almighty?
I call it a pile of sh*t, Don Andrew almighty.


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Kid, you're not a wiseguy, no one owes you "loyalty." And yes, this is a football film. For your terminology I guess it would be "American Football."

Look above where you replied to Ragingbull for considering it "football." He is an American, what do you want him to call it? "Uh, it's a great Run-as-many-yards-to-get-closer-to-a-touchdown movie"?

I say it's a football movie, which it is here. The fact that soccer is known as football outside the country means nothing.


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Quote:
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[quote]Originally posted by Don_Andrew:
[b] Then what the hell do you call the sport that is played with Helmets and Crotch Guards? Sir Sportsman, almighty?
I call it a pile of sh*t, Don Andrew almighty. [/b][/quote]You're just being a Jackass now. Now why is it a pile of shit?


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Im no Kid Vercetti, I respect the fact that to you guys this is a football film, but to me its just is not.


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