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Re: Israel: 'State of war'
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From: Haaretz June 4, 2025 Trump: Putin offered to join Iran nuclear talks; accuses Iran of 'slow walking' its decision
US President Donald Trump spoke with Russian President Vladimir Putin and said following the discussion that Putin offered to join the negotiations on the nuclear agreement that the US is conducting with Iran.
"We also discussed Iran — not Ukraine? — and the fact that time is running out on Iran's decision pertaining to nuclear weapons, which must be made quickly! I stated to President Putin that Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon and, on this, I believe that we were in agreement," Trump said.
"President Putin suggested that he will participate in the discussions with Iran and that he could, perhaps, be helpful in getting this brought to a rapid conclusion," adding and that "It is my opinion that Iran has been slow walking — not Russia? — their decision on this very important matter, and we will need a definitive answer in a very short period of time!"
Wow! Wow! Wow! Putin still 'tapping' Trump... Putin the — Peace maker and Trouble shooter — for rapid conclusions for other people's wars.
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From: Finance News Network June 4, 2025 “This is is suicidal politics,” said Dutch political scientist René Cuperus. “Geert Wilders shot himself in the foot.”
Fallout and fury: Leaders of the remaining coalition parties reacted with open anger.
“This wasn’t about asylum at all,” said VVD leader Dilan Yesilgöz. “We had a right-wing majority. He lets it all go — for his ego. He’s running away at a time of unprecedented uncertainty.”
Prime Minister Dick Schoof said, he had warned party leaders repeatedly that bringing down the government was “unnecessary and irresponsible.” He and the remaining cabinet ministers will now govern in a limited caretaker capacity, restricted from launching new initiatives or passing major legislation.
Political observers say Wilders may have engineered the collapse to reset the narrative.
“He knew support was waning,” said Chatham House analyst Armida van Rij. “And with the NATO summit approaching, he tried to use it as leverage to force concessions.”
“If it hadn’t happened today, it would have happened in a few weeks,” said D66 leader Rob Jetten, noting the coalition was riven by infighting and dysfunction. “The other parties were being held hostage by Wilders.”
But while Wilders has vowed to return stronger and try again for the premiership, his reputation as an unreliable partner may make future coalition-building even harder.
For now, the Netherlands faces a period of paralysis: 1. governed by a weakened cabinet, 2. heading into a NATO summit with major defence obligations unresolved, 3. and drifting toward an uncertain election season.
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From: The Guardian June 4, 2025 US vetoes resolution for unconditional Gaza ceasefire at UN security council. 14 other members back motion demanding release of hostages and unhindered aid; US envoy says will ‘not support any measure that fails to condemn Hamas, call for it to disarm’ Russia, China, France and the UK all voted in favour of ‘immediate, unconditional and permanent ceasefire’ Iran and Russia being a part of the UN shows what a joke it is The United States has vetoed a United Nations security council resolution calling for an “immediate, unconditional and permanent ceasefire” in Gaza while the 14 remaining countries on the council voted in favour. The vetoed resolution also called the situation in Gaza “catastrophic”, and demanded the “immediate and unconditional lifting of all restrictions on the entry of humanitarian aid into Gaza and its safe and unhindered distribution at scale, including by the UN and humanitarian partners”. It was the fifth time that the US has vetoed a security council draft ceasefire resolution in order to protect Israel. Washington vetoed a similar resolution in November, under the Biden administration, on the grounds that the ceasefire demand was not directly linked to the immediate and unconditional release of all hostages held by Hamas. The text was co-sponsored by Algeria, Denmark, Greece, Guyana, Pakistan, Panama, South Korea, Sierra Leone, Slovenia, and Somalia. Russia, China, France and the UK also voted in favour.
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The UK supported the resolution. In a statement, its ambassador, Barbara Woodward, called Israel’s new aid system “inhumane” and said that: Israel “needs to end its restrictions on aid, now”.
“This Israeli government’s decisions to expand its military operations in Gaza and severely restrict aid are unjustifiable, disproportionate and counterproductive,” “And the UK completely opposes them.” The resolution was put up for a vote as the UN and aid agencies have warned of famine conditions in Gaza after a protracted embargo on aid and the shambolic rollout of a US-and Israeli-backed scheme called the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation (GHF). the UN relief chief, Tom Fletcher, on Wednesday, said: "The world is watching, day after day, horrifying scenes of Palestinians being shot, wounded or killed in Gaza while simply trying to eat,” GHF, which has murky political backing and funding, announced that its distribution centres in Gaza would remain closed for a second day on Thursday morning. At least 27 people were killed and hundreds injured on Tuesday by Israeli fire — according to the Hamas-controlled local authorities — as they waited for food at a GHF distribution point. Woodward, the UK permanent representative to the United Nations voiced support for a UN call for: “an immediate and independent investigation into these events and for perpetrators to be held accountable”. 1. “Israel needs to end its restrictions on aid now: 2. let the UN and humanitarians do their job to save lives, reduce suffering and maintain dignity,”
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From: The Jerusalem Post June 4, 2025 The US representative, Dorothy Shea, called the draft resolution “unacceptable” saying that: the United States “would not support any measure that fails to condemn Hamas and does not call for Hamas to disarm and leave Gaza”. The United States vetoed the decision. "The US refusal of the resolution should not surprise you," Acting Ambassador Dorothy Shea said. 1. "The US made it clear that it would not support any effort that does not condemn Hamas. 2. We cannot allow the Council to reward Hamas terrorism." she said of the text that was put forward by 10 countries on the 15-member council: "This resolution would undermine diplomatic efforts to reach a ceasefire that reflects the realities on the ground, and embolden Hamas," Israel also welcomed the US veto. Gideon Saar, Israel’s minister of foreign affairs wrote: “I thank @POTUS and the US administration for standing shoulder to shoulder with Israel and vetoing this one-sided resolution in the UN Security Council,” “The proposed resolution only strengthens Hamas and undermines American efforts to achieve a hostage deal.” Ambassador Danny Danon said: 1. The decision presented today was a gift to Hamas and a significant boost to terrorism," 2. "You chose appeasement and surrender. You chose a path that leads to more terrorism. This decision sends a dangerous message to Hamas: 1. reject every proposal, and the international community will reward you. 2. Hold hostages, and the UN will legitimize you." Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu wrote on X shortly after the meeting ended: 1. "Thank you, America and Donald Trump, for once again showing our enemies that there is no daylight between us," 2. "That is the only way to destroy the Hamas terrorists who are still holding 58 innocent hostages in the dungeons of Gaza. 3. The civilized world should demand their immediate and unconditional release."
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More than 90 arrests after pro-Palestinian protest against the role of Rotterdam port
In Rotterdam, more than 90 people were arrested on Wednesday evening during a demonstration against the role of the port in the war in Gaza. The arrested demonstrators refused to leave the area around the city hall after the agreed end time, the police wrote in a statement. Mayor Schouten then decided to end the demonstration and the police intervened.
The protest started peacefully, writes regional broadcaster Rijnmond . The intention was for the demonstrators to demonstrate only at the city hall, but a number of activists moved to other places. The atmosphere became grim elsewhere in the city center. "Dozens of demonstrators did not adhere to the predetermined framework of the demonstration," according to the police.
The AD writes that a number of activists wanted to go to the nearby headquarters of the Rotterdam police. Four people are being held there who were arrested on Monday for defacing and destroying windows of the Maersk office in Rotterdam. Activists claim that the Danish shipping company transports weapon parts to and from Israel.
Protest against arrival of ship According to the police, "many demonstrators" left the city hall at 19:30, the agreed end time, but not everyone. Mayor Schouten then decided that the demonstration would end at 20:00. Demonstrators who did not respond to the police's calls to leave were arrested. One woman was arrested for assaulting a police officer, the police said.
The demonstration was an initiative of several pro-Palestinian organizations. Two weeks ago, they also protested in Rotterdam against the arrival of a Maersk ship. Responsible alderman Simons concluded after asking the harbor master and customs that there were no weapons parts on board the ship.
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City Journal June 3, 2025 In my fight against critical race theory in American institutions, I, Christopher F. Rufo should acknowledge that I’m no expert on Israel and Palestine.
I don’t speak Hebrew or Arabic. I haven’t visited either territory. For that reason, I’ve written little about the conflict and don’t claim to grasp all its intricacies.
Intellectuals, rarely short on opinions, often fall back on a familiar dodge when confronted with a controversy they’d rather avoid: calling the issue “complex.” The war in Gaza is one such case.
To be sure, the tangled history, religion, and culture behind the Israel–Palestine conflict make it genuinely complicated. Partisans on both sides accuse their opponents of ignorance while promoting their own preferred narratives and facts to claim authority over the subject.
But I do understand American domestic politics. And I can see the shadows the Gaza war has cast here at home.
On one side stand Palestine’s domestic proxies: 1. the decolonization theorists, 2. keffiyeh-clad campus leftists, 3. and, increasingly, the radicalized individuals now out for blood.
These elements are connected. The ideology is hatched at places like Harvard, where it trickles down to student activists who occupy campus buildings and make lithographs of Hamas paragliders.
It then gets refracted on social media, flipping the switch within the minds of those predisposed to violence, giving them a rationale to lash out at Jews. 1. Consider the recent spate of property bombings, 2. the cold-blooded murder of two Israeli embassy employees, 3. and the injuries inflicted by Molotov cocktails on a dozen people in Boulder, Colorado.
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City Journal June 3, 2025 I don’t need to speak Hebrew or Arabic to recognize this domestic movement as an enemy.  It’s enough to read its literature and observe its supporters’ actions to see that it embodies the forces of barbarism — forces that, if left unchecked, would tear down the pillars of civilization both abroad and at home. I don’t need to have visited Israel or the Gaza Strip to grasp the basic analogy driving this activism: Palestinians are to Israel as the Left is to America. In the Left’s narrative, Israel stands in for the American empire, and Jews represent the white oppressors the Left seeks to overthrow. The academic Left views Hamas as heroic resistance fighters battling a technologically superior but morally bankrupt enemy — just as they see themselves as intellectual insurgents resisting capitalism and systemic oppression in the U.S. Campus activists celebrated the October 7 paragliders because Hamas achieved in practice what they can only imagine in theory. The bloodshed offered emotional release — a euphoric political moment that made their ideology feel real.
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City Journal June 3, 2025 It’s easy to forget, living here, Pacific Northwest that civilization doesn’t arise spontaneously or sustain itself without effort. In truth, civilization has existed in few places and at even fewer moments in history. It is always under threat.
One may feel unqualified to judge a foreign conflict or wish for the U.S. to disengage from global proxy wars. But there is no such luxury when it comes to the shadow war unfolding in America’s cities, campuses, and places of worship.
The academic elite now treats support for Israel as an embarrassment, and solidarity with the Palestinians as a marker of intellectual bravery. But the shadows tell a different story.
I don’t need to trace every historical movement of the peoples of Israel, or justify every maneuver on today’s battlefield, to conclude — at least in an American context — that Israel’s supporters, whatever their faults, stand for civilization, and that Hamas’s apologists stand for barbarism.
I see one faction 1. radicalizing universities, 2. celebrating slaughter, 3. shouting death to America, 4. and spilling blood in the streets.
I don’t need to be an expert to know which side deserves my support.
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BTW I always thought how Zelensky thougt about Israel he is a Jew after all. Are Ukraine and Israel allies? Zelensky is jealous  "Allied action" led by the U.S. against Iran's attack on Israel has made Ukraine envious.” President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has now urged the West to "treat Ukraine like Israel." As Israel’s ambassador to Ukraine said in 2023 Kyiv votes against Israel more than 90% of the time and has come down on the side of antisemitic discrimination at the world body In the ten years between 2015-2025 Ukraine did not vote in favor of a single pro-Israel resolution Zelenskyy also undermined his own case when, in a virtual address to the Knesset, he falsely claimed that Ukrainians stood with the Jews during the Holocaust when, in fact, they were among the most ardent and brutal collaborators with the Nazis
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The Guardian June 5, 2025 Norway MPs reject  call to stop wealth fund investing in Israeli-occupied Palestinian territories Parliament votes against divestment proposal after tearful speeches in chamber and protests outside Politicians in Norway have rejected calls to stop investing its sovereign wealth fund — the largest in the world — in the occupied Palestinian territories despite emotional scenes inside and outside parliament. The £1.4trillion oil fund, which is run by Norges Bank according to rules set by MPs, is the largest European investor in Israel’s occupation. Among the 45 proposals voted on in Wednesday’s annual review of the oil fund — several of which related to Israel — was to instruct Norges Bank to divest the oil fund from companies that contribute to Israel’s illegal occupation and what the proposals said were Israeli war crimes. The vote came after dramatic scenes in Stortinget (parliament) in Oslo as several MPs gave speeches about Gaza through tears.
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The Guardian June 5, 2025 One politician, Marian Hussein, was asked by the speaker to remove her keffiyeh, which she kept on in protest. During the debate, sounds of shouting protesters outside echoed in the chamber. Hussein, the deputy leader of the Socialist Left party, which brought forward one of the proposals, said in response: “Speaker, I will not take off my Palestinian scarf. Those standing outside are shouting right now: ‘Stop Norwegian involvement, withdraw the oil fund.’” She added: “Why do we still show double standards in this hall? Why are some people worth less than others?” After quoting from a famous Norwegian poem, Du Må Ikke Sove (Dare Not Sleep) from 1936, she cited Jens Stoltenberg, the former NATO secretary general who is now the finance minister in Norway’s minority Labour government. We are a small nation which constantly talks about the need for a world order,” she said. “We have a finance minister who has been a former NATO chief and prime minister. He knows very well what this means in foreign policy.” During the debate, Stoltenberg said Norway had “an established ethical regime for the fund”. He added: “We divest from the companies that contribute to Israel’s breach of international law, but we do not divest from all companies that are present on the ground.”
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The Guardian June 5, 2025 After the vote, Hussein told The Guardian: “I’m incredibly disappointed.  This should have been the easiest vote of our lives, especially for the Labour party and the Labour government.” She added: “We are not backing down. Shortly before the government recognised the state of Palestine, they voted against it in parliament. We will continue to put pressure on the other parties together with the massive movement in civil society.” Before the afternoon vote, crowds gathered outside parliament for a protest organised by several organisations including the Palestinian Committee, the Action Group for Palestine and Amnesty International Norway. Norway has played a historical role in the region, including by facilitating the Oslo peace accords between Israel and the Palestinians that led to a breakthrough deal in 1993. Last year it recognised the Palestinian state  one of a minority of European countries to do so. Last week, Norway’s international development minister, Åsmund Aukrust, told The Guardian that Israel was setting a dangerous precedent for international human rights law violations in Gaza that was making the world more dangerous. Line Khateeb, the leader of the Palestine Committee of Norway, said the vote was an opportunity for politicians “to show that international law matters and that they do not want to make Norway complicit in the Israeli genocide and colonisation”.
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The Guardian June 5, 2025 Khateeb said, Stoltenberg “needs to take responsibility” and she called on the oil fund to divest from Israel as it had done from all Russian companies immediately after the invasion of Ukraine. She added: “Even though the Norwegian oil fund is Europe’s largest investor in the Israeli occupation, Stoltenberg claims that the current guidelines are good enough. That is appalling and needs to change.”  Dictating Foreign Policies  1. Support the country we chose to live in, be loyal or go and live in the country we support 2. Freedom of Speech, Freedom to demonstrate / protest [Peacefully] come with responsibilities and obligations These self-righteous radicals have taken over our Western countries Fault of our Government letting it happen — Accommodating them DEI Diversity, Equity, inclusion  But they exclude us, don't assimilate The discovery of one of the world’s largest offshore oilfields off the Norwegian coast in 1969 and the huge revenue that came from selling it dramatically changed Norway’s prospects, bringing rapid economic growth. Norway’s oil fund, officially called the Government Pension Fund Global, was established in 1990 to preserve revenues for future generations in the knowledge that the oil supply will one day run out. The first deposit was made to the fund in 1996 and since then it has been invested only outside Norway.
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From: The Jerusalem Post June 4, 2025 The US representative, Dorothy Shea, called the draft resolution “unacceptable” saying that: the United States “would not support any measure that fails to condemn Hamas and does not call for Hamas to disarm and leave Gaza”. The United States vetoed the decision. "The US refusal of the resolution should not surprise you," Acting Ambassador Dorothy Shea said. 1. "The US made it clear that it would not support any effort that does not condemn Hamas. 2. We cannot allow the Council to reward Hamas terrorism." she said of the text that was put forward by 10 countries on the 15-member council: "This resolution would undermine diplomatic efforts to reach a ceasefire that reflects the realities on the ground, and embolden Hamas," Israel also welcomed the US veto. Gideon Saar, Israel’s minister of foreign affairs wrote: “I thank @POTUS and the US administration for standing shoulder to shoulder with Israel and vetoing this one-sided resolution in the UN Security Council,” “The proposed resolution only strengthens Hamas and undermines American efforts to achieve a hostage deal.” Ambassador Danny Danon said: 1. The decision presented today was a gift to Hamas and a significant boost to terrorism," 2. "You chose appeasement and surrender. You chose a path that leads to more terrorism. This decision sends a dangerous message to Hamas: 1. reject every proposal, and the international community will reward you. 2. Hold hostages, and the UN will legitimize you." Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu wrote on X shortly after the meeting ended: 1. "Thank you, America and Donald Trump, for once again showing our enemies that there is no daylight between us," 2. "That is the only way to destroy the Hamas terrorists who are still holding 58 innocent hostages in the dungeons of Gaza. 3. The civilized world should demand their immediate and unconditional release." Thanks for your post! "This resolution would undermine diplomatic efforts to reach a ceasefire that reflects the realities on the ground and emboldens Hamas," Washington's United Nations envoy Dorothy Shea said ahead of Wednesday's 14 to 1 vote, with the US casting the lone vote against. "This resolution also draws false equivalence between Israel and Hamas," she said. https://www.france24.com/en/middle-...il-immediate-gaza-ceasefire-hamas-israelYou don't tale half-measures with terrorist organizations like Hamas. You eliminate them.
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Erasmus University freezes Israeli cooperation due to situation in Gaza By our news editors Jun 5, 2025 at 2:04 pm Update: 37 min ago 109 comments
Erasmus University Rotterdam is immediately freezing its collaborations with three universities in Israel. The university is afraid that it is indirectly involved in human rights violations. The decision was made by the board of directors, which adopted the advice of an independent advisory committee. According to the committee, there is a good chance that Bar-Ilan University in the Israeli Ramat Gan is involved in human rights violations.
Furthermore, collaborations with The Hebrew University in Jerusalem and the university in Haifa have been terminated due to their ties to the Israeli army and their research activities in occupied territories.
"Our international collaborations are based on academic freedom and scientific diplomacy. But that freedom has its limits when fundamental human rights are at stake," says Annelien Bredenoord, chair of the Executive Board of Erasmus University.
The board says it will only cooperate again if the Israeli universities "demonstrably distance themselves from the Israeli army as long as there is a suspicion of structural violations of human rights and war crimes".
Since the start of the war in Gaza on October 7, 2023, there have been many protests at Dutch universities against ties with Israeli universities. Other universities have previously stopped collaborations with Israeli universities.
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Israeli defense sources confirm arms aid to Gaza gang The Abu Shabab gang in Gaza received Kalashnikov rifles from Israel, sources in the Israeli Ministry of Defense confirmed to various Israeli media. The gang , led by Yasser Abu Shabab, received weapons "for protection," according to the sources, as part of an effort to strengthen the opposition to Hamas.
Abu Shabab operates in Rafah, in an area under Israeli control. The group claims to protect food convoys, but is also accused of looting aid shipments.
According to the anonymous defense sources, the arms shipments were approved by Prime Minister Netanyahu on the advice of the security services, but took place without the knowledge of the Israeli security cabinet.
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Former Israeli Minister: Netanyahu Arming Criminal Gang in Gaza Former Israeli Defense Minister Avigdor Lieberman has accused Prime Minister Netanyahu of arming a jihadist gang in southern Gaza. In an interview with public broadcaster Kan, Lieberman said the government was giving weapons "to a group of criminals linked to the Islamic State, on the orders of the prime minister."
According to the Times of Israel, the group is the Abu Shabab clan, an armed group opposed to Hamas that has been spotted in recent times near the Kerem Shalom border crossing controlled by the Israeli army. Yesterday, leader Yasser Abu Shabab released a video in which members wear military uniforms embroidered with the Palestinian flag and the words "Counter-Terror Mechanism." In it, he attempts to recruit members from among the local population to take up the fight against Hamas.
That Israel uses Palestinian gangs in Gaza has been known for some time. Last year, Haaretz reported that the army turns a blind eye to armed Gazan groups looting aid trucks and extorting truck drivers for protection money.
It is unclear where opposition leader Lieberman gets his information about arms shipments to the gang, but Prime Minister Netanyahu's office confirmed in a statement that the government "is trying to defeat Hamas through all means based on the recommendations of the intelligence chiefs."
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Yasser Abu Shabab: Gaza's New Strongman Or Israel's Proxy?
Abu Shabab, once known for crime and links to extremist groups, now says he leads the "Popular Forces", a group that protects people and aid from Hamas and the ongoing chaos in Gaza. ![[Linked Image]](https://c.ndtvimg.com/2025-06/lj1nvmho_abu-shabab-group-_625x300_05_June_25.jpg) In war-torn Gaza, where hunger, mistrust, and militia rule collide, one man has risen to claim control over a patch of territory, offering what he calls "safety and order". That man is Yasser Abu Shabab, a clan leader from Rafah who now leads a controversial militia allegedly under Israeli protection and in direct defiance of Hamas. Once a known figure in Gaza's criminal underworld, with alleged links to drug trafficking and extremist groups like Daesh, Abu Shabab has now rebranded himself as the commander of the 'Popular Forces', a self-declared unit he says is protecting civilians and humanitarian aid from chaos and Hamas's grip. Clan To A Force Abu Shabab's transformation from clansman to armed leader has been swift and public. This week, he released a video message claiming his group, formally called al-Quwat el-Shabeyaa (Popular Forces), has taken control of eastern Rafah. He urged displaced civilians to return, promising food, shelter, and protection in makeshift camps erected under the watch of the Israeli military. His fighters, mostly relatives, are seen wearing uniforms bearing Palestinian flags and "counter-terrorism unit" patches. They are seen setting up tents, unloading flour from trucks, and distributing supplies, all within IDF-controlled zones. Abu Shabab insists his presence in Israeli-controlled zones is "not by choice, but out of necessity, to prevent the displacement plan." His militia's mission is to defend civilians against what he calls the "terrorism of the de facto government [Hamas]" and the rampant looting of aid. "We operate under Palestinian legitimacy," he said, suggesting ties with the Palestinian Authority (PA) in Ramallah, although the PA has remained silent on any affiliation. Claims Then Counterclaims With Gaza's humanitarian system in collapse, and Israeli aid blockades entering their 12th week, any semblance of structure attracts attention. Abu Shabab's supporters argue that his forces are simply stepping in where no one else will. Hamas recently executed four people for looting aid, according to a Reuters report, and his group claims it is preventing such thefts. But Hamas officials accuse him of the same, saying his men have intercepted aid near Kerem Shalom and Salah al-Din Street. A Hamas official dismissed Abu Shabab as "a tool used by the Israeli occupation to fragment the Palestinian internal front," while others call him an outright collaborator. Reports by Quds News and outlets like Haaretz and The Washington Post suggest that Abu Shabab's group operates under full Israeli military protection. Witnesses say they have seen his fighters looting convoys and demanding "protection money" from drivers, all while Israeli tanks watch without interference. In one reported incident, his men opened fire on an aid convoy 100 metres from an Israeli tank, with no response from the soldiers. Israeli airstrikes later killed six Palestinian officers who tried to prevent the looting. "The armed men beat the drivers and take all the food if they aren't paid [protection money]," a senior official in Gaza told Haaretz. Collaborator Or Protector? Abu Shabab's rise has created deep divisions within Palestinian society. To some, he represents a new form of localised order, a necessary force in an ungoverned space. Abu Shabab's Facebook page portrays him as a "grassroots leader who stood up against corruption and looting," and his supporters argue he is doing what Hamas failed to: protect the people and ensure aid gets where it is needed. This turns Yasser Abu Shabab from a local strongman into a potential contender for power in southern Gaza, directly challenging Hamas's long-standing grip. For Israel, he could be the kind of local leader they have been hoping for: someone who can take control of an area, at least for now, while the war continues and Hamas is pushed back. To others, he is a traitor, the face of a dangerous new model: a Palestinian leader backed not by popular will but by foreign military power. They see Abu Shabab and his men as collaborators working with the Israeli army, not as protectors of their people. Because of this, most Palestinians do not trust him or accept him as a real alternative to Hamas, regardless of the latter's authoritarianism or failures. But without legitimacy from Gaza's population, his hold on power remains shaky at best. The 'Awakening Councils' Parallel Advertisement Some observers draw comparisons between Abu Shabab's Popular Forces and the 'Awakening Councils' in Iraq - tribal militias funded by the US to defeat al-Qaeda in the mid-2000s. Those groups were effective in the short term but eventually disbanded or turned hostile once foreign troops withdrew. Others liken his rise to the South Lebanon Army, a Christian-led militia that collapsed after Israel pulled out of Lebanon in 2000, leaving its fighters to face backlash and exile.
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BTW I always thought how Zelensky thougt about Israel he is a Jew after all. Are Ukraine and Israel allies? Zelensky is jealous  "Allied action" led by the U.S. against Iran's attack on Israel has made Ukraine envious.” President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has now urged the West to "treat Ukraine like Israel." As Israel’s ambassador to Ukraine said in 2023 Kyiv votes against Israel more than 90% of the time and has come down on the side of antisemitic discrimination at the world body In the ten years between 2015-2025 Ukraine did not vote in favor of a single pro-Israel resolution Zelenskyy also undermined his own case when, in a virtual address to the Knesset, he falsely claimed that Ukrainians stood with the Jews during the Holocaust when, in fact, they were among the most ardent and brutal collaborators with the Nazis Interesting NOBODY stood by the Israelites during WWII. Ukraine and even the Netherlands fully cooperated with the Nazis. The only people who did help them were resistance fighters and partisans. Maybe Zelensky was refering to them.
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Abu Shabab are Bedouins. Israel arming of Gaza militias is part of broader post-war plan, officials say Senior Israeli officials confirmed a covert strategy to arm local militias in Gaza to undermine Hamas and explore alternative governance; effort, led by Shin Bet, marks a shift in Israeli policy and has sparked political and security debate. ![[Linked Image]](https://cdn.i24news.tv/uploads/8b/55/5a/f4/5f/69/58/e4/20/0f/bf/81/0c/0a/a4/a5/8b555af45f6958e4200fbf810c0aa4a5.jpg)
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Prime Minister Netanyahu:
Thank you Geert Wilders! You are a true friend of Israel!
Geert Wilders gave a speech defending Israel:
"Israel is fighting our battle. If Jerusalem falls, we are next. Our mothers can sleep peacefully at night because the mothers of Israeli soldiers lie awake, wondering if their children will come out of the battle alive. It’s a fight for freedom and democracy against jihad terror."
https://truthsocial.com/@Achla_News/posts/114632180845735801 Like I said not a fan of the politician Netanyahu but Wilders has been a long time friend of his. Wilders love for Israel and the Netherlands is sincere. You also dont turn your back on a friend in a time of WAR.
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From: The Guardian June 5, 2025 Rubio imposes sanctions on four ICC judges for ‘targeting’ US and Israel
US secretary of state cites ‘illegitimate actions’ of court that issued arrest warrants against Israeli officials
The United States is placing sanctions on four judges from the international criminal court (ICC) for what it has called its “illegitimate actions” targeting the United States and Israel.
The secretary of state, Marco Rubio, announced the sanctions in a statement on Thursday. They target Solomy Balungi Bossa of Uganda, Luz del Carmen Ibáñez Carranza of Peru, Reine Adelaide Sophie Alapini-Gansou of Benin and Beti Hohler of Slovenia.
1. Two of the sanctioned judges authorised the arrest warrants for Netanyahu and Gallant, 2. and two authorised an ICC investigation into abuses by US personnel in Afghanistan.
“As ICC judges, these four individuals have actively engaged in the ICC’s illegitimate and baseless actions targeting America or our close ally, Israel,” Rubio said.
“The ICC is politicized and falsely claims unfettered discretion to investigate, charge, and prosecute nationals of the United States and our allies. This dangerous assertion and abuse of power infringes upon the sovereignty and national security of the United States and our allies, including Israel.”
The decision to move forward with the sanctions will escalate Trump’s feud with the court and other international organisations, which he has broadly dismissed as politicised.
The US has already sanctioned the ICC’s chief prosecutor, Karim Khan, because of his role in pursuing the arrest warrants for Netanyahu and Gallant. Those sanctions have led Khan to lose access to his email and his bank accounts have been frozen, The Associated Press reported earlier this month.
Americans who work for the Hague-based court have been warned that they could be arrested if they set foot on American soil.
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In a statement, the ICC said it “deplores” the new designations for sanctions.
“These measures are a clear attempt to undermine the independence of an international judicial institution which operates under the mandate from 125 states parties from all corners of the globe,” the ICC said.
“Targeting those working for accountability does nothing to help civilians trapped in conflict,” the statement continued. “It only emboldens those who believe they can act with impunity.
These sanctions are not only directed at designated individuals, they also target all those who support the court, including nationals and corporate entities of states parties.
They are aimed against innocent victims in all situations before the court, as well as the rule of law, peace, security and the prevention of the gravest crimes that shock the conscience of humanity.”
James Goldston, executive director of the Open Society’s justice initiative and a former ICC prosecutor, said: “As a court of last resort, the ICC is the one place victims of the most serious crimes can turn to when other avenues have failed them in their search for truth and justice.
These new designations of ICC judges threaten their hopes and embolden the perpetrators. Sanctions against ICC officials are a betrayal of America’s proud commitment to the rule of law and international justice.”
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