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Re: Israel: 'State of war' [Re: Kangaroo Don] #1123517
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The Guardian May 23, 2025
But endorsing murder because of the other side’s atrocities is a sure path to a bloodbath. That is wrong on two counts.

First, there is no evidence that the gunman acted because of Israel’s critics as opposed to Israel’s conduct.
Second, it cheapens the concept of antisemitism to equate it with legitimate criticism of Israeli war crimes.

Antisemitism is a real and growing problem panic but if the concept is misused to deflect condemnation of Israeli atrocities, it weakens protection for Jews around the world. There are lessons to be drawn from this tragedy.

Critics of the Israeli government’s atrocious conduct in Gaza should be clear that their focus is the authors:
1. Netanyahu, the generals directing the slaughter,
2. and the soldiers carrying it out,
3. but not the Israeli people,
4. not people who happen to work as civilians for the Israeli government,
5. and not Jews.

The Israeli government might also reconsider its policy of endless reprisals.

Not that I am holding my breath in anticipation, but it is nice to think that the needless and unjustified killing of these two young embassy workers could prompt a rethinking of the government’s own callous treatment of Palestinian civilians, whose horrible and mounting death toll is also needless and unjustified.

Originally Posted by Kangaroo Don
Day 595 sacrifices, horrifically wounded soldiers and soldiers returning in coffins
The horrors and immeasurable suffering, death and destruction All sides "endless offensive” Forever war devastating terror trauma
It is the innocent civilians indeed -- Gazans in particular between a rock and a hard place -- paying the horrendous price

Re: Israel: 'State of war' [Re: Hollander] #1123518
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The Jerusalem Post May 23, 2025
U.N. cannot dismiss grief and struggle of Israeli people.

The humanitarian crisis in Gaza can’t and shouldn’t be ignored. But neither should the cries of grieving parents of hostages.

Israel far and away had the highest level of enmity toward the organization, with no other country coming within 15 percent of Israel’s disapproval rating of the global body.

The reason for that large gap was showcased this week, when Tom Fletcher, the U.N.’s under-secretary-general for humanitarian affairs and emergency relief coordinator, went on the BBC. He said on Tuesday mad
1. “There are five trucks just sitting on the other side of the border right now,”
2. “They have not reached the communities they need to reach. This is baby food, baby nutrition.
3. There are 14,000 babies that will die in the next 48 hours unless we can reach them.”

crazy Needless to say, 14,000 Gazan babies did not die in two days. sick

Israel has historically not felt adequately represented by the U.N.

Look no further than the infamous UN General Assembly Resolution 3379 which equated Zionism with racism, a bastardization of the concept from people who seemed not to understand its very roots and importance to an often marginalized and massacred people.

To be an effective international broker, the U.N. cannot dismiss the true grief and struggle of the Israeli people, as it has. The horrors of this war do not extend only to one side. The U.N. has no right to gaslight us about our history and our hostages.

The heart of Israel is and will remain with the hostages. We know what an attack is.

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The Jerusalem Post May 23, 2025
sick Propaganda against the Jewish state mad

To many Israelis, this is part and parcel with the propaganda
1. disseminated widely against the Jewish state,
2. cynically manipulating public perception by fudging facts amidst the fog of war
3. and trying to appeal to emotion by drastically and dramatically overstating the damage done on the ground.

This distortion frown does nothing to aid the cause on the ground.
To call it a well-intentioned attempt to rally people against the very real suffering in Gaza is to miss the point.

It is alarmism in search of a good cause, an extreme amplification that smacks of scapegoating.

It is the boy who cried wolf.
Exacerbate the issue by exploiting the most vulnerable to raise the stakes geopolitically and emotionally, then claim yourself as the savior.

It calls into question the motives of representatives of a supposedly peace-oriented organization, whether they are trying to achieve actual results or grandstand for what amounts to geopolitical clout and cultural cachet.

Israel at the U.N. feels like it is unduly maligned, its very soul and essence disturbingly distorted by people who only wish it harm.

The humanitarian crisis in Gaza can’t and shouldn’t be ignored. But neither should the cries of grieving parents of hostages.

In March, Ayelet Samerano, the mother of a hostage, spoke to the United Nations Human Rights Council: “I know what an attack is.
1. An attack is when terrorists, including UNRWA employees like Muhammad Abu Itiwi, enter a music festival and murder innocent young people.
2. An attack is when a U.N. social worker, paid by this organization, kidnapped my son into Gaza:
3. A U.N. employee who took upon himself to do good, yet did evil.
4. No, UNRWA is not under attack. UNRWA is the attacker.”

Re: Israel: 'State of war' [Re: Hollander] #1123520
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Attacking a UK prime minister that helps..

Netanyahu accuses Starmer of being on 'wrong side of humanity' and siding with Hamas

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/articles/c7804k13x52o.amp


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Re: Israel: 'State of war' [Re: Hollander] #1123521
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n an interview for BBC World Service's Newshour programme, former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert described the current Israeli administration as a "gang of thugs".

He was asked about remarks by the Israeli education minister, who had said Olmert should be ashamed of a previous interview with the BBC, where he argued that what Israel was doing in Gaza was "close to a war crime".

"This is nonsense, they are a group of thugs that are running the state of Israel these days and the head of the gang is Netanyahu - this is a gang of thugs," Olmert said.

"Of course they are criticising me, they are defaming me, I accept it, and it will not stop me from criticising and opposing these atrocious policies."


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