Originally Posted by Havana
"To try and answer your question, “Why was it that Capone was kept out so long for being Neapolitan ,i.e. non Sicilian, while guys like Genovese(Neapolitan) and Costello(Calabrese ) seemed to be already included with Masseria.?”

I think the best answer to your question is to say that Capone was originally mob-connected by his affiliation with La Camorra. It was his South Brooklyn Camorra superiors who first backed him, and later sent him out to Chicago. So he was always under that “umbrella” so to speak, as opposed to being “with” the Mafia, per se.

So Capone owed his fealty — and he basically always operated — within the realm of the Napolitani/Calabrese underworld.

Whereas Genovese, Costello and some other non-Sicilians remained in New York and became very early affiliates of the Sicilians, such as Salvatore Luciano and others."


That answer makes perfect sense of what could have been seen as an inconsistancy. So I would guess that Torrio would have had same type but earlier Camorra based transfer to Chicago as Capone?
Did Torrio ever become a member of Cosa Nostra ? Did he continue on as Camorra ? Was he ever offered a Cosa Nostra membership? Would he even have accepted a vMafia membership ?



Johnny Torrio, older than Capone, was said to have first been affiliated with the notorious "Five Points Gang" based in Lower Manhattan, headed by the legendary Paolo (Paul Kelly) Vacarelli.

It is believed that at some point in time, Torrio aligned with the Calabrese, Frankie Yale in Brooklyn, and Capone, from that neck of the woods anyway, soon became Torrio's close aide.

Then, at some point, they were both later "sent" out to Chicago to aide fellow Calabrian underworld leader, Jim Colosimo....and the rest is history!

PS: And yes, just like Capone, Torrio was 'officially' initiated into the ranks of New York's Masseria Family. Years later, Torrio relocated back to New York City (residing in the Bay Ridge section of Brooklyn, until his later death from natural causes), where he transferred his membership, realigning as a soldier under the Genovese Family flag.