i think when it comes to discussions on the outfit we need to establish in 2024 what it actually looks like in regards to structure, membership, crews and territory and any criminal alliances inside chicago. by that i'm thinking some of the street gangs the outfit has been allied with and has used as recruiting pools like 12th street players etc. is there any continuing collaboration with these gangs, have they and there territory been absorbed by the outfit, any alliances with any of the many chicago street gangs or for that matter any other organized criminal group in chicago area(outlaws mc?) as an example.

i keep saying in chicago and that is also important. what if any CREDIBLE current proof is there of the chicago outfit operating crews outside the state of illinois? or of having any influence in cities outside illinois? so if one were to do a chart i would hope it will dispense with claims of rudy fratto being 'the link' to the cleveland mafia or go forbid controlling rackets in iowa. i think this is important as well because if we cannot describe or try to figure out just what is going on in the chicago area, anything else is irrelevant.

and what to make of the street crews? the most recent intell says the outfit continues to have 4 crews( cicero, elmwood park, 26th st, grand avenue) or maybe 2 large crews/small families, no its just cicero with some other loosely allied older members, perhaps there is still action in chicago heights??? and on and on. in the last few years i have come across more ideas about crews and structure (mine included) with little to no consensus. there is still no agreement on if even the elmwood park crew exists, was disbanded under john difronzo or now what remains of it is under the grand avenue crew, which may not even exist according to some. there is still no consensus on if john difronzo was even ever BOSS?

now i know some members on here will claim that these questions have all been answered either on here or elsewhere on the interweb or in books and that may be true. but what has not changed is the charts and how they present this info. as an example i have never come across a chart by anyone showing john monteleone as BOSS. when i say BOSS this to me means there is noone above monteleone on the chart. same can be said to the claims about sarno being BOSS, ones i do not believe, but none the less never seen it in any form.

the structure and admin of the outfit may also need to be questioned in 2024. there has been an ongoing discussion on here about if a consigliere position exists in the outfit today if ever. it has become over the years an easy place to put members we know little about criminally, think recently deceased joe andriacchi. i think we can agree there is a BOSS position, most claim this is held by salvatore delaurentis and has been for at least a decade. is there an underboss? or 2? or 2 powerful street bosses running 2 powerful factions? below delaurentis is there now 3-4 capos or is there no structure left and its a total free for all? i will add as well that some qualifying criteria may have to be established as well. couple months ago the topic of gigi rovito came up as to whether or not he was a member. what if we had i dont know a check list, has alleged member ever been arrested, arrested with known outfit members or associates, arrested committing a crime common to the outfit in an area known to be in control by the outfit, caught under surveillance, been sent to prison at all etc. to this simply being the relative of a living outfit member or even an old long dead one does not denote membership. lastly is there a distinction between members and associates or at this stage is there even a distinction. the outfit historically has not cared who you were ethnically as long as u made money, kept yer mouth shut and did what bosses told ya to do i cant see why this would all of a sudden change, and i dont think if the outfit plans to continue on they have the luxury its all hands on deck.

all important questions that cant be glossed over when discussing the outfit or any family really.