Originally Posted by Malavita
In the US, often you don't have to put your pin code to use the cards. You can just sign. That helped a lot to fraud the system.

In France for instance, we have to put the pin code unless it's a contacless payment (below 50 euros). It doesn't mean there is no fraud but it's much harder i guess.

What they do here is they put a device in the ATM so when you put your card, the device scan your information and frauders can make a copy of your card. It's known as the "Marseille double" because mobsters from Marseille sort of invented that fraud.


Thats very interesting, Malavita. We, here in the U.S., also have a similar device to capture credit card info. I believe it's called a "skimmer" if memory serves me. The scamsters place this innocent looking device (which blends into the ATM machine and actually appears to be part of it) over the slot where the c.c. goes.

It sounds like the device they use in Marseilles.

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