Thanks and in fact, your forum name reminded me of the case regarding Richards Bar when Vena's name was only mentioned but was never connected to any type of crime. Also, in all of the recent gambling cases which mostly involved West Side faces, again nobody mentioned Vena. So, until someone starts talking to the feds, speculation is the only thing we can do but again, we should do it carefully because there are innocent people out there being wrongfully labelled, just because some paying sites wants to make money. People are throwing "dirt" over names only because they are Italian and because of simple speculations, and also because of someone's history or family relations. That's obviously not good. I'm not a cop nor a mobster, but I "did my time" when I was younger and for the last 12 years or so my hobby is being a researcher who depends mostly on government info and also on info from informants. When was the last time someone saw Vena having meetings with other mobsters? 10 years ago? 15? 20? I really cant judge him anymore and I wont, until something new comes up.