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Re: Mobsters who weren't mobsters? [Re: Toodoped] #1088631
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Originally Posted by Toodoped
Originally Posted by RushStreet

I do have facts and his name is Fred Roti who was a loyal member of the "Machine" established by Mayor Richard J. Daley. We all know Roti was a made member of the Chicago Oufit and one of the most powerful guys they had working for them and Daley himself.

Its quite obvious Daley was connected when he was running the city of Chicago.


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Thank you Toodoped for sharing that!

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Originally Posted by RushStreet
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I do have facts and his name is Fred Roti who was a loyal member of the "Machine" established by Mayor Richard J. Daley. We all know Roti was a made member of the Chicago Oufit and one of the most powerful guys they had working for them and Daley himself.

Its quite obvious Daley was connected when he was running the city of Chicago.


@Rush dont quarrel with faces who only use google...ignore them...

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Thank you Toodoped for sharing that!


You're welcome bud.


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Re: Mobsters who weren't mobsters? [Re: NYMafia] #1088634
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Here is another prime example of "mobsters who weren't obvious mobsters"

For many years, Long Island’s John Del Mastro doubled as a businessman and devout Lucchese Family associate.

Ostensibly, Del Mastro was just the owner of a very successful fence installation company, based in Smithtown. But in reality, by the early 1960s both local and federal law enforcement authorities had determined that Del Mastro was actually a coveted and highly influential Mafia associate and close aide to top bosses within the Lucchese borgata who rubbed elbows with the likes of Andimo (Tommy Noto) Pappadio, Antonio (Tony Ducks) Corallo, Joseph (Joey Narrow) Laratro, Aniello (Neil) Migliore and others.

Heavily involved in both Republican and Democratic Party politics, and a big campaign donor, the influential Johnny Del Mastro was considered a key “link” between the mob and local government. He reportedly helped pave the mob’s way into the early expansion and domination of Suffolk County construction industry rackets.
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Re: Mobsters who weren't mobsters? [Re: NYMafia] #1088643
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Many people around Meyer Lansky also fit the profile guys like Dino Cellini.
Cellini has record of only two convictions (1941 and 1945) on gambling charges.

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Re: Mobsters who weren't mobsters? [Re: NYMafia] #1088666
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Originally Posted by NYMafia
Originally Posted by RushStreet
Agreed NYMafia. Agreed 100%.



We are in complete accord, Rush.


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Rush, as Hollander had mentioned in another post, Chicago had Roti (as you mentioned,) as well as Roland Libonati and many others who fall into this category nicely.

There were tons of guys connected to the Outfit who fit this profile; corrupt politicians, labor union officials, businessmen etc. The Roti family had Bruno Roti, Fred (Peanuts) Roti, and Jimmy Roti, among them.

Some others include Alderman John D'Arco, Michael Brodkin, John Delasandro, labor union bigwigs Edward T. (Ed) Hanley and Samuel Cozzo, the shadowy lawyer Sidney (Sid) Korshak, etc., etc., etc.

But this is just scratching the surface of all the fellas connected to the Outfit who fit the bill. Chicago certainly had no shortage of these types of guys. lol.

I actually researched and created a very unique "hierarchy leadership chart" for the Chicago Outfit that we display on our website. Its massive. I also made it a point to clearly delineate and mark those members and associates who specialized as "frontmen" for the Outfit, as labor officials, "so-called" politicians, and ostensibly "legitimate" businessmen. But who were actually employed by, of under the thumb of, the Outfit leadership.

If I'm not mistaken, you joined us and became a "button guy," am I correct? If so, the next time you visit our site, click into "Charts" and scroll down to the "Chicago Outfit Leadership Chart."

Rush, since I know you enjoy learning about Chicago, you'll have a party, I assure you.

Re: Mobsters who weren't mobsters? [Re: NYMafia] #1088667
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A hitman who wasnt a hitman and never killed anyone but still was a dangerous hitman...geeeeshhh....fuck outta here with these bullshit threads and stop bumping up your own threads with bullshit posts


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Re: Mobsters who weren't mobsters? [Re: Hollander] #1088672
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Originally Posted by Hollander
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Fred Roti, Roland Libonati, Frank Annunzio and others from Chicago.


No doubt about that. Roti (and his relatives,) Libonati, and a host of others in Chicago...New York, and a host of other cities as well, had many "sleepers" for lack of a better word, who were either dyed-in-the-wool mafiosi, or top crew associates, masquerading as politicians and legit businessmen, etc., but were actually "tools" of the underworld.

It was a very corrupt (but extraordinarily interesting) dynamic.


Back when the Democratic Party ran the country, there were not many Republicans among the Italians.


Thats 100% true, Hollander. Back in the 1920s-1970s era, most Italians and other blue-collar voters went with the Democrats. But as the Italians (and other ethnicities melded more into the middle and upper class, I think that dynamic has somewhat changed.)

Re: Mobsters who weren't mobsters? [Re: NYMafia] #1088673
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All the guys from the neighborhood I know all now vote Republican lol.

They still all have city jobs also.

One guy actually ran for Alderman as a Republican! Lol

Its hard to find city elections with anyone running as a Republican so they end up voting for the more moderate Democratic candidate.

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Re: Mobsters who weren't mobsters? [Re: RushStreet] #1088674
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Originally Posted by RushStreet
All the guys from the neighborhood I know all now vote Republican lol.

They still all have city jobs also.

One guy actually ran for Alderman as a Republican! Lol

Its hard to find city elections with anyone running as a Republican so they end up voting for the more moderate candidates.


Yes, the voting trends have definitely changed over the years.

Re: Mobsters who weren't mobsters? [Re: NYMafia] #1088675
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Originally Posted by NYMafia
Originally Posted by NYMafia
Originally Posted by RushStreet
Agreed NYMafia. Agreed 100%.



We are in complete accord, Rush.


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Rush, as Hollander had mentioned in another post, Chicago had Roti (as you mentioned,) as well as Roland Libonati and many others who fall into this category nicely.

There were tons of guys connected to the Outfit who fit this profile; corrupt politicians, labor union officials, businessmen etc. The Roti family had Bruno Roti, Fred (Peanuts) Roti, and Jimmy Roti, among them.

Some others include Alderman John D'Arco, Michael Brodkin, John Delasandro, labor union bigwigs Edward T. (Ed) Hanley and Samuel Cozzo, the shadowy lawyer Sidney (Sid) Korshak, etc., etc., etc.

But this is just scratching the surface of all the fellas connected to the Outfit who fit the bill. Chicago certainly had no shortage of these types of guys. lol.

I actually researched and created a very unique "hierarchy leadership chart" for the Chicago Outfit that we display on our website. Its massive. I also made it a point to clearly delineate and mark those members and associates who specialized as "frontmen" for the Outfit, as labor officials, "so-called" politicians, and ostensibly "legitimate" businessmen. But who were actually employed by, of under the thumb of, the Outfit leadership.

If I'm not mistaken, you joined us and became a "button guy," am I correct? If so, the next time you visit our site, click into "Charts" and scroll down to the "Chicago Outfit Leadership Chart."

Rush, since I know you enjoy learning about Chicago, you'll have a party, I assure you.


Rush, although back in the day, mob guys in Chicago, as well as those in NY, NJ and elsewhere did their best to back "both parties," lol, Dems and Repubs. Gotta remember that the mob could care less about which party wins and gets in office, just so long as the mob "pull the strings." lol

Re: Mobsters who weren't mobsters? [Re: Toodoped] #1088677
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A hitman who wasnt a hitman and never killed anyone but still was a dangerous hitman...geeeeshhh....fuck outta here with these bullshit threads and stop bumping up your own threads with bullshit posts

Btw hows the "new" site??? I hear you stole money from people for nothing...lol


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Re: Mobsters who weren't mobsters? [Re: Hollander] #1088688
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Originally Posted by Hollander
Many people around Meyer Lansky also fit the profile guys like Dino Cellini.
Cellini has record of only two convictions (1941 and 1945) on gambling charges.


Thats 100% correct, Hollander.

In fact, to be able to list them all would be a Herculean task, to put it mildly.

Meyer Lansky's crew "specialized" in such activities; corrupt politicians, political influence peddlers, labor-union officials, "beards" with no criminal record posing as "frontmen" for liquor and casino licensing, hotels and various other legit businesses, etc., etc.

Literally hundreds of his associates, from "direct" Lansky crew "members"to secondary associates and peripheral hangers-on served this purpose for him and the mob over the years. David Dubinsky of ILGWU, the Cellini brothers (Dino and Eddie,) etc., etc.

That was his specialty.

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Re: Mobsters who weren't mobsters? [Re: NYMafia] #1088689
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The Lansky network was actually quite extraordinary. I always liked what Hank Messick said, the great Miami Herald writer who uncovered many Lansky secrets, when he said 'Meyer Lansky doesn't own property. He owns people.'


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Re: Mobsters who weren't mobsters? [Re: Giacalone] #1088690
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Originally Posted by Giacalone
The Lansky network was actually quite extraordinary. I always liked what Hank Messick said, the great Miami Herald writer who uncovered many Lansky secrets, when he said 'Meyer Lansky doesn't own property. He owns people.'


Very True the same with Moe Dalitz who till this day is a hero to many Las Vegans.


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Re: Mobsters who weren't mobsters? [Re: NYMafia] #1088691
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Originally Posted by NYMafia
Originally Posted by RushStreet
All the guys from the neighborhood I know all now vote Republican lol.

They still all have city jobs also.

One guy actually ran for Alderman as a Republican! Lol

Its hard to find city elections with anyone running as a Republican so they end up voting for the more moderate candidates.


Yes, the voting trends have definitely changed over the years.


For example, the recent Chicago election. Every guy I know of voted for Paul Vallas over Brandon Johnson.

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Originally Posted by RushStreet
All the guys from the neighborhood I know all now vote Republican lol.

They still all have city jobs also.

One guy actually ran for Alderman as a Republican! Lol

Its hard to find city elections with anyone running as a Republican so they end up voting for the more moderate Democratic candidate.


I believe that the GOP is now a working class favorite, during the years the Democrats have lost their traditional supporters.


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Re: Mobsters who weren't mobsters? [Re: Hollander] #1088706
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Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by RushStreet
All the guys from the neighborhood I know all now vote Republican lol.

They still all have city jobs also.

One guy actually ran for Alderman as a Republican! Lol

Its hard to find city elections with anyone running as a Republican so they end up voting for the more moderate Democratic candidate.


I believe that the GOP is now a working class favorite, during the years the Democrats have lost their traditional supporters.


Yes, to a degree, the demographic has certainly changed (in both parties I suspect)

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Originally Posted by RushStreet
Originally Posted by NYMafia
Originally Posted by RushStreet
All the guys from the neighborhood I know all now vote Republican lol.

They still all have city jobs also.

One guy actually ran for Alderman as a Republican! Lol

Its hard to find city elections with anyone running as a Republican so they end up voting for the more moderate candidates.


Yes, the voting trends have definitely changed over the years.


For example, the recent Chicago election. Every guy I know of voted for Paul Vallas over Brandon Johnson.


This was a Mayoral race, is that correct, Rush?

Who ended up winning, Brandon, right?

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Re: Mobsters who weren't mobsters? [Re: NYMafia] #1088713
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Originally Posted by NYMafia
Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by RushStreet
All the guys from the neighborhood I know all now vote Republican lol.

They still all have city jobs also.

One guy actually ran for Alderman as a Republican! Lol

Its hard to find city elections with anyone running as a Republican so they end up voting for the more moderate Democratic candidate.


I believe that the GOP is now a working class favorite, during the years the Democrats have lost their traditional supporters.


Yes, to a degree, the demographic has certainly changed (in both parties I suspect)


Def in particular in swing states it could go either way in November.


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Re: Mobsters who weren't mobsters? [Re: NYMafia] #1088714
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Re: Mobsters who weren't mobsters? [Re: NYMafia] #1088715
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Originally Posted by NYMafia
Originally Posted by RushStreet
Originally Posted by NYMafia
Originally Posted by RushStreet
All the guys from the neighborhood I know all now vote Republican lol.

They still all have city jobs also.

One guy actually ran for Alderman as a Republican! Lol

Its hard to find city elections with anyone running as a Republican so they end up voting for the more moderate candidates.


Yes, the voting trends have definitely changed over the years.


For example, the recent Chicago election. Every guy I know of voted for Paul Vallas over Brandon Johnson.


This was a Mayoral race, is that correct, Rush?

Who ended up winning, Brandon, right?


Yes. All the blacks voted for him.

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I think two more prime examples of "Mobsters who weren't mobsters" per se, are reputed Colombo Family soldiers John S t a l u p p i and John Rosati, are considered very successful business titans within the automotive industry in both New York, Florida and along the eastern seaboard. S t a l u p p i is also known as one of the most respected designers and manufacturers of luxury watercraft and multimillion-dollar yachts. Both men are multimillionaires many times over in their own right, and rub elbows with other captains of industry and local and nationally known politicians, alike. Yet, for years the FBI has documented both men as formally initiated members of the Mafia.

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Yeah those Colombo billionaires are definitely not mobsters in my view. They just bought their button if anything. I would also add that guy who flipped Richie Ferrara or whatever the fuck his name was. Also is Joe Cafe a tough guy? I dont think so

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Sidney Roy Korshak was an American lawyer and 'fixer' for businessmen in the upper power classes and the Chicago Outfit in the United States. His reputation as a Chicago mafia man in Los Angeles made him one of Hollywood's most legendary and influential fixers.


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Murray Humphreys (born Llewellyn Morris Humphreys; April 20, 1899[1] – November 23, 1965) (also known as The Camel or The Hump), was a Chicago mobster of Welsh descent who was the chief political fixer and labor racketeer, beginning during the Chicago Outfit during Prohibition. Considered to be a ruthless but also well-dressed, socially refined, and clever man, Humphreys believed in killing only as a last resort. He was known to place far greater trust in the bribability of lawmen, seemingly respectable businessmen, labor union leaders, and public officials. A favorite maxim of Humphreys' was: "The difference between guilt and innocence in any court is who gets to the judge first with the most".[2] But perhaps the statement that best summed up Humphreys' philosophy of life was: "Any time you become weak, you might as well die".[3] Al Capone once said of Humphreys, "Anybody can use a gun, but 'The Hump' uses his head. He can shoot if he has to, but he likes to negotiate with cash when he can. I like that in a man."


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Originally Posted by Hollander
Sidney Roy Korshak was an American lawyer and 'fixer' for businessmen in the upper power classes and the Chicago Outfit in the United States. His reputation as a Chicago mafia man in Los Angeles made him one of Hollywood's most legendary and influential fixers.


Agreed. Sid Korshak was another prime example for this thread.

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Originally Posted by Hollander
Murray Humphreys (born Llewellyn Morris Humphreys; April 20, 1899[1] – November 23, 1965) (also known as The Camel or The Hump), was a Chicago mobster of Welsh descent who was the chief political fixer and labor racketeer, beginning during the Chicago Outfit during Prohibition. Considered to be a ruthless but also well-dressed, socially refined, and clever man, Humphreys believed in killing only as a last resort. He was known to place far greater trust in the bribability of lawmen, seemingly respectable businessmen, labor union leaders, and public officials. A favorite maxim of Humphreys' was: "The difference between guilt and innocence in any court is who gets to the judge first with the most".[2] But perhaps the statement that best summed up Humphreys' philosophy of life was: "Any time you become weak, you might as well die".[3] Al Capone once said of Humphreys, "Anybody can use a gun, but 'The Hump' uses his head. He can shoot if he has to, but he likes to negotiate with cash when he can. I like that in a man."


Humphreys kidnapped and killed more people for the syndicate then some of the most infamous capos and bosses.

As for Korshak, he also managed to set up more victims (like Gioe) and also managed to keep murderers out of prison then any other fixer in the Outfit, and acted as connection guy in many deals which were quite important for the mob and many "obstacles" were eliminated during process, mainly because of his information which was given to the mob. Everyone has his own role in the Mafia's organization which includes murder and dope dealing.

Theres no such thing as "mobster who wasnt a mobster". Lol


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TD were Roland Libonati and Frank Annunzio made guys?
I believe they were initiated in Cosa Nostra but who knows lol..

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Originally Posted by Hollander
TD were Roland Libonati and Frank Annunzio made guys?
I believe they were initiated in Cosa Nostra but who knows lol..


Libonati, yes.....not sure or dont remember about Annuzio. These guys were all mobsters in their own right and skills.


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