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Re: Why did the mob become weak? [Re: RushStreet] #1077785
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List your current made guys who never would have been made 30-40 years ago due to being considered weak.

Re: Why did the mob become weak? [Re: furio_from_naples] #1077812
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Originally Posted by furio_from_naples
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Originally Posted by Liggio
I think most of you make some good points. "The Life" or whatever you want to call it is very complicated.


True for a mafioso so many things are not permitted if it's in violation of his obligations as a "man of honor".


In Italy is different many men become crazy in 41 bis regime.


Yes 41bis is inhumane IMO, but there is no other way to keep the bosses from still running their families and even at maximum security units they still send messages
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Re: Why did the mob become weak? [Re: RushStreet] #1077882
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What I can't stand is when people compare the mob to Mexico, like people say, "they ain't got nothing on them boys in Mexico." Like quit comparing a 3rd world shit hole to a 1st world nation. I know technically it's not 3rd world in the sense of Somalia but compared to America it is. The cartels aren't exactly wholesale slaughtering people over here either. I don't see how you can compare criminal groups in America to groups in countries like Colombia or Mexico ridiculous.

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Originally Posted by Liggio
What I can't stand is when people compare the mob to Mexico, like people say, "they ain't got nothing on them boys in Mexico." Like quit comparing a 3rd world shit hole to a 1st world nation. I know technically it's not 3rd world in the sense of Somalia but compared to America it is. The cartels aren't exactly wholesale slaughtering people over here either. I don't see how you can compare criminal groups in America to groups in countries like Colombia or Mexico ridiculous.


They are whacking guys left and right In Canada. Canada is far from a 3rd world country.

Explain that.

Re: Why did the mob become weak? [Re: RushStreet] #1077915
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The mob's biggest enemy isn't the FBI, it's the mob itself. Most of its wounds are self-inflicted. The 1990s Colombo War stands out in my mind the most. Vic & Gaspipe tearing the Luccheses apart due to paranoia. Same thing with Nicky Scarfo and the Philly mob. John Gotti and his love affair with the media. The 1980s Commission Trial did some damage, but the Families were still strong, it was the bozos that succeeded them, Chin Gigante and Joe Massino being the exception. Carmine Persico should've let Vic Orena have the reigns. John Gotti should've only conducted business on walk-and-talks and whispered while inside. Joe Massino had a great run, but he made some boneheaded mistakes as boss as well. This is why the mob is weak.

Re: Why did the mob become weak? [Re: RushStreet] #1077916
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Rush, Canada is soft on organized crime. And Vito Rizzuto wasn't your typical Mafia boss. I also think the mobsters over there are more traditional and closer to their old country roots. And it's not just Italian organized crime, so many different groups up there that have a lot of power and money and influence. Guys also rarely get life sentences for murder. Organized crime up there needs another Vito Rizzuto, like desperately. A strong, charismatic figure who everyone loves, respects, and if need be fears.

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Re: Why did the mob become weak? [Re: Liggio] #1077925
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Originally Posted by Liggio
Rush, Canada is soft on organized crime. And Vito Rizzuto wasn't your typical Mafia boss. I also think the mobsters over there are more traditional and closer to their old country roots. And it's not just Italian organized crime, so many different groups up there that have a lot of power and money and influence. Guys also rarely get life sentences for murder. Organized crime up there needs another Vito Rizzuto, like desperately. A strong, charismatic figure who everyone loves, respects, and if need be fears.


The Siderno Group is well organized and strong, but they don't have an overall boss instead they have several charismatic leaders and are less flashy as the Montreal guys.


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Re: Why did the mob become weak? [Re: RushStreet] #1077926
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For example one bust in 2019 included 9 major crime figures: Angelo Figliomeni, Vito Sili, Nick Martino, Emilio Zannuti, Erica Quintal, Salvatore Oliveti, Giuseppe Ciurleo, Rafael Lepore and Francesco Vitucci.


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Re: Why did the mob become weak? [Re: RushStreet] #1077929
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American Mob is just a bunch of guys with Italian surnames.

How many of them really understand the history of cosa nostra or the culture that it came from ?

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Re: Why did the mob become weak? [Re: RushStreet] #1077937
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You're right Hollander, I should've zoomed it down to Montreal instead of saying Canada.

Re: Why did the mob become weak? [Re: RushStreet] #1077962
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Thinking more about it I'll say it's ridiculous to compare either Mexico or Canada to the US. Nobody's killing like that in America, period! They know better! At least not in regards to organized crime syndicates. Maybe street gangs in Chicago but law enforcement don't really care about them. It's different when people are killing over "what you looking at" or what hood you're from than over rackets and when big money is involved.

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Re: Why did the mob become weak? [Re: RushStreet] #1077968
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Originally Posted by Liggio
You're right Hollander, I should've zoomed it down to Montreal instead of saying Canada.


Siderno group or Siderno Crime is still underrated IMO.


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Re: Why did the mob become weak? [Re: RushStreet] #1077969
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Siderno organized crime group in New York City', Intelligence Report [heroin] (1993), p. 1. 7 DEA, 'The resurgence of the Siderno organized crime group'


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Re: Why did the mob become weak? [Re: British] #1078144
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Originally Posted by British
American Mob is just a bunch of guys with Italian surnames.

How many of them really understand the history of cosa nostra or the culture that it came from ?



That's too simplistic, there are still members who have relatives in the old country who speak Sicilian.


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