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Washed up’ Genovese mobster convicted
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Re: Washed up’ Genovese mobster convicted
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Re: Washed up’ Genovese mobster convicted
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I hate when they call debt collection extortion. No extortion is trying to extract money from people who don't owe anything. But telemarketers and legal debt collectors are free to harass you anytime. Lol. It's extortion because it's not a real debt. It's illegal gambling, the only thing that says you have a right to get paid is your threat of violence if you don't. Otherwise you could sue.... I'm pretty fascinated by the hipocracy I've noticed with this case. If this dumb 80 year old goes and punches a guy on camera, ( where the fuck are the goons/ associates?) it's discrimination? Then what is letting Senter out? Favoritism? Lol This guy balks at paying, he's a deadbeat. But Merlino practically made a racket out of it, and people love him...go figure.....
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Re: Washed up’ Genovese mobster convicted
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I hate when they call debt collection extortion. No extortion is trying to extract money from people who don't owe anything. But telemarketers and legal debt collectors are free to harass you anytime. Lol. It's extortion because it's not a real debt. It's illegal gambling, the only thing that says you have a right to get paid is your threat of violence if you don't. Otherwise you could sue.... I'm pretty fascinated by the hipocracy I've noticed with this case. If this dumb 80 year old goes and punches a guy on camera, ( where the fuck are the goons/ associates?) it's discrimination? Then what is letting Senter out? Favoritism? Lol This guy balks at paying, he's a deadbeat. But Merlino practically made a racket out of it, and people love him...go figure..... Thats not exactly true, Cabrini. It makes absolutely no difference, whatsoever, whether the debt in question was generated from illegal activity owed to a mobster, or it was a legitimate debt owed to a business. It is the alleged method of "collection" thats the problem. If you had a clothing business and sold a shipment of clothes to a customer, and that client reneged on his debt to you, and then you attempted to use strong arm methods or intimidation to get paid....that would also be extortion. To the contrary... if you were in the illegal drug business and sold a kilo of cocaine to a customer, and likewise he reneged on payment to you, and you later repeatedly went to him seeking payment but didn't use what is considered to be "strong arm methods" or intimidation to get your money, then you couldn't be charged with extortion. You might be charged with drug trafficking, but NOT extortion. Understand what I'm trying to say?
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Re: Washed up’ Genovese mobster convicted
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Clearly those two bettors were bums and schemers, figuring if they win they'll get paid, and if they lose, tough luck, they stiff the bookie.
But our personal opinions aside, what the G accused these guys of, whether true or false, is, "technically," on the penal books as extortion.
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Re: Washed up’ Genovese mobster convicted
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This is key, and was left out of every other news story, from Romanello's lawyer:
“The judge made it virtually impossible, as I’ve been saying all throughout the trial,” he said outside the courtroom, adding that Komitte didn’t let the jury hear voicemails Selimaj left on Romanello’s phone cursing him out after the punch or let him press the steakhouse owner on whether he was trying to bully his client.
Since the owner had been calling Rom and taunting him, the judge should have let that in. I bet the jury quits him if that was allowed in, as it should have been. Again, if this were introduced as it should have been, he would have walked. This was a B.S. case. The guy was calling him and taunting him, he barley touched the guy, and gets time. The judge is the newest in line of totally pro prosecution federal judges.
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