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Re: Vito Genovese is actually underrated
[Re: furio_from_naples]
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09/15/23 05:37 AM
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Genovese when fled to Italy become friend with Galeazzo Ciano the son in law of mussolini and rumors say that Genovese become the Ciano cocaine supplier. After donate 100K dollars to the fascista party and help build the Casa of Fascio in Nola his hometown was made commendatore by Mussolini. During the 1943 he did profitable business on the black market and with bribes to the allied governor Poletti for whom he was officially the interpreter.
Fun fact
My university had a branch office in Nola where I did my first 3 years of university and the office was actually the former Casa del Fascio built by Genovese.
Thats right and thanks for the info about the building Fur. Btw, several years ago I went to Napoli and I saw one street which was named Genovese with huge letters, and when i googled it, i couldnt find the street on maps but instead it gave me the famous "alla Genovese food" and reminded me that I saw many taverns and restaurants in that same area.
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Re: Vito Genovese is actually underrated
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09/15/23 06:59 AM
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When he came up Vito was close to the Navy Street Gang (Camorra). The Neapolitans, based in Brooklyn and Coney Island, fought for control of the New York rackets. Eventually decimated when it’s own members turned against them. Anthony Paretti was electrocuted under the jurisdiction of the state of New York on 17th February, 1927 at the age of 35. One of the last men to visit Paretti before his death was a young Genovese. Thanks for the remind @H regarding that alleged Camorra leader.
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Re: Vito Genovese is actually underrated
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09/15/23 07:36 AM
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Truth be told, during his time as Lucky's #2 man, Vito Genovese was arguably the most important "underboss" NYC had ever seen. Yes and him being Neapolitan also helped the Sicilian family. Agreed. It made the former Masseria Family even stronger and more influential because aside from their Sicilian roots, the future Luciano/Genovese Family was viewed and widely accepted as the "voice" for the Napolitani and Calabrese factions as well. Not only in NY, but throughout the entire country.
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Re: Vito Genovese is actually underrated
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Genovese when fled to Italy become friend with Galeazzo Ciano the son in law of mussolini and rumors say that Genovese become the Ciano cocaine supplier. After donate 100K dollars to the fascista party and help build the Casa of Fascio in Nola his hometown was made commendatore by Mussolini. During the 1943 he did profitable business on the black market and with bribes to the allied governor Poletti for whom he was officially the interpreter.
Fun fact
My university had a branch office in Nola where I did my first 3 years of university and the office was actually the former Casa del Fascio built by Genovese.
Thats right and thanks for the info about the building Fur. Btw, several years ago I went to Napoli and I saw one street which was named Genovese with huge letters, and when i googled it, i couldnt find the street on maps but instead it gave me the famous "alla Genovese food" and reminded me that I saw many taverns and restaurants in that same area. Perhaps it is via Antonio Genovesi, an Enlightenment philosopher of the 1700s. Genovese and Genovesi is spelled in the same way in english.
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Re: Vito Genovese is actually underrated
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09/15/23 09:45 AM
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Genovese when fled to Italy become friend with Galeazzo Ciano the son in law of mussolini and rumors say that Genovese become the Ciano cocaine supplier. After donate 100K dollars to the fascista party and help build the Casa of Fascio in Nola his hometown was made commendatore by Mussolini. During the 1943 he did profitable business on the black market and with bribes to the allied governor Poletti for whom he was officially the interpreter.
Fun fact
My university had a branch office in Nola where I did my first 3 years of university and the office was actually the former Casa del Fascio built by Genovese.
Thats right and thanks for the info about the building Fur. Btw, several years ago I went to Napoli and I saw one street which was named Genovese with huge letters, and when i googled it, i couldnt find the street on maps but instead it gave me the famous "alla Genovese food" and reminded me that I saw many taverns and restaurants in that same area. Perhaps it is via Antonio Genovesi, an Enlightenment philosopher of the 1700s. Genovese and Genovesi is spelled in the same way in english. Thanks again bud.
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Re: Vito Genovese is actually underrated
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09/15/23 10:05 AM
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Genovese when fled to Italy become friend with Galeazzo Ciano the son in law of mussolini and rumors say that Genovese become the Ciano cocaine supplier. After donate 100K dollars to the fascista party and help build the Casa of Fascio in Nola his hometown was made commendatore by Mussolini. During the 1943 he did profitable business on the black market and with bribes to the allied governor Poletti for whom he was officially the interpreter.
Fun fact
My university had a branch office in Nola where I did my first 3 years of university and the office was actually the former Casa del Fascio built by Genovese.
Thats right and thanks for the info about the building Fur. Btw, several years ago I went to Napoli and I saw one street which was named Genovese with huge letters, and when i googled it, i couldnt find the street on maps but instead it gave me the famous "alla Genovese food" and reminded me that I saw many taverns and restaurants in that same area. Perhaps it is via Antonio Genovesi, an Enlightenment philosopher of the 1700s. Genovese and Genovesi is spelled in the same way in english. Thanks again bud.
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Re: Vito Genovese is actually underrated
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09/15/23 12:13 PM
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@NYM any info on his brothers Michael and Carmine who were also made guys? In 1980s a nephew was shot dead in Naples he was the son of? I wrote a very extensive and in-depth biography about Vito's brother Michael, who was a goodfella. Its on our ButtonGuys website, under the link for the Genovese Family. They called him "Compare Mike" or "Goomba Mike" in corrupted street slang. I wrote his bio because I had never seen one done on him before and I thought he would be a very interesting subject. As far as Carmine goes, he also was affiliated with Vito, but I do not believe he was an inducted member.
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Re: Vito Genovese is actually underrated
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09/15/23 06:33 PM
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Thanks NYM !
Mafia Leader Killed Near Naples
June 16, 1981
New York Times Vincenzo Genovese, the nephew of the late American crime figure Vito Genovese and the most powerful Mafia leader in the area south of Naples, was shot to death today as he was driving a sports car near this southern Italian city, the police reported. Mr. Genovese, 43, headed an extortion racket linked with the Raffaele Cutolo family of Naples, the police said.
"The king is dead, long live the king!"
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Re: Vito Genovese is actually underrated
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09/15/23 07:56 PM
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Wow so his nephew was part of the Camorra. Still to this day the Genovese Family has members from that part of Italy. Yes Vincent Gigante had also ties to Naples. After finishing school, Gigante began working as a professional boxer, fighting a total of 25 matches between 1944 and 1947; following physical injuries Gigante ends his boxing career early and joins Lucky Luciano 's mafia family . Gigante is the fifth of five brothers: Mario, Pasquale, Ralph and Luigi, all, with the exception of the latter, enlisted as men of the Genovese family. Absorbed in the role of Vito Genovese 's personal driver ,he will be entrusted with the task of killing Frank Costello , who however fails. After serving a sentence for heroin trafficking, during which he also shares a cell with former boss Vito Genovese , Gigante becomes caporegime of the same Genovese family, running their own mobster group in the Greenwich Village area .
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Re: Vito Genovese is actually underrated
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09/18/23 06:40 AM
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There used to be many mobsters in the past who used the crazy act only during trials, like constantly screaming or came to the courtroom completely naked. But it seems that Gigante played the crazy act constantly, especially in public. So I have two questions...
1. Which year or decade Gigante started his crazy act?
2. Was Gigante the first and only American made member or boss who did the crazy act on daily basis? --- 1. He started his crazy act during the 1960s in NJ. I believe he checked into a hospital for his first "tune up" around 1969 or so. Possibly earlier. 2. Yes, to my knowledge, he was the only top member or boss to ever pull a "crazy act" on a daily or constant basis.
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Re: Vito Genovese is actually underrated
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09/18/23 06:45 AM
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There used to be many mobsters in the past who used the crazy act only during trials, like constantly screaming or came to the courtroom completely naked. But it seems that Gigante played the crazy act constantly, especially in public. So I have two questions...
1. Which year or decade Gigante started his crazy act?
2. Was Gigante the first and only American made member or boss who did the crazy act on daily basis? --- 1. He started his crazy act during the 1960s in NJ. I believe he checked into a hospital for his first "tune up" around 1969 or so. Possibly earlier. 2. Yes, to my knowledge, he was the only top member or boss to ever pull a "crazy act" on a daily or constant basis. Thanks a lot bud. I wonder how he developed the idea regarding the crazy act? I mean he was with Vito who in turn never did such a thing, including Catena, Miranda or Lombardo. Except for Costello who allegedly went to a psychiatrist.
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