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Questions about the Scoppa Brothers #1064738
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What organization or clan did Salvatore and Andrea Scoppa belong to, and what are the top theories behind their murders, such as the reason, what group killed them, etc.

Re: Questions about the Scoppa Brothers [Re: Liggio] #1064743
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An informant has already alleged that during 2016, three leaders on the Calabrian side of the Montreal Mafia — Salvatore Scoppa, his brother Andrea (Andrew) Scoppa and Vittorio (Victor) Mirarchi — sought to kill people on the Sicilian side. The informant said the Falduto brothers were killed because they sided with the Sicilians.

Mirarchi has been linked to the 'ndrangheta and Salvatore visited Calabria a few times he was the cocaine connection in Montreal.


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Re: Questions about the Scoppa Brothers [Re: Liggio] #1064757
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So you think it's safe to say that the Sicilian faction took the Scoppas out? And wasn't the Falduto brothers Sicilian themselves?

Re: Questions about the Scoppa Brothers [Re: Liggio] #1064758
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Originally Posted by Liggio
And wasn't the Falduto brothers Sicilian themselves?


No I dont think they were sicilian.


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Re: Questions about the Scoppa Brothers [Re: Liggio] #1064762
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If Mararchi was directly involved, how does he survive when others don’t?

Re: Questions about the Scoppa Brothers [Re: Liggio] #1064763
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Involved in what exactly? I read something about a truce between the Sollecito-Rizzuto and the Mirarchi camps, and part of the deal was the murder of Salvatore Scoppa.

Re: Questions about the Scoppa Brothers [Re: Liggio] #1064764
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The murders of the Scoppa brothers are still unsolved, I would just like to know the most probable theory.

Re: Questions about the Scoppa Brothers [Re: Liggio] #1064765
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Liggio they were with the Rizzutos until 2015 when there was a falling out. The top theories for their murder is the Rozzutos killed them but the informant Hollander mentioned said Jonathan Massari and Vittorio Mirarchi were behind Sal Scoppa's murder.

Originally Posted by mike68
If Mararchi was directly involved, how does he survive when others don’t?


This informant testified he offered to kill Vittorio Mirarchi when talking to Charlie Renda and Charlie Renda told him no because they needed him for the pipeline. Some articles have made mention of a truce being made. Whatever the exact situation is you can see he's too important to get rid of based on Charlie Renda's reply to the offer.


Originally Posted by Liggio
Involved in what exactly? I read something about a truce between the Sollecito-Rizzuto and the Mirarchi camps, and part of the deal was the murder of Salvatore Scoppa.


I also saw that post on reddit and the poster said it was just a theory and not something that was reported.

Re: Questions about the Scoppa Brothers [Re: Liggio] #1064778
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Andrea (Andrew) Scoppa speculated a lot over the death of his brother Salvatore, despite his claims he didn’t care for his deceased sibling.

The Montreal Mafia leader was secretly recorded by an informant while they ate lunch at a restaurant in Dollard-des-Ormeaux with Dominico Scarfo on Sept. 25, 2019.

As the three men ate lunch, Andrew Scoppa began to speculate about how the Mob hit went down.

“You can’t do s— like that,” he said at one point, in an apparent reference to his brother’s efforts to eliminate people on the Sicilian side. “Now look (where) he is — he’s gone because he didn’t do what he had to do. He sat there and he waited.”

The informant then brought up how he had heard a man was standing next to Salvatore Scoppa when a gunman approached him outside the hotel. It was apparent that both the informant and Andrew Scoppa knew the man and that Scoppa suspected him of having convinced his brother to step outside the hotel at a precise time.


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Re: Questions about the Scoppa Brothers [Re: Liggio] #1064786
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I'm convinced that the Sicilians did it. I mean, come on, Salvatore Scoppa apparently had Lorenzo Giordano, Rocco Sollecito, and the Falduto brothers killed from the Sicilian side. Who would've had a bigger motive? Any other theory is just deflection as far as I'm concerned.

Re: Questions about the Scoppa Brothers [Re: Mafia101] #1064789
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What exactly did Vittorio Mirarchi do to get on the bad side of the Rizzutos, for the informant to ask Charlie Renda for permission to kill him? And what if both the Rizzutos and Mirarchi agreed that the Scoppas had to go in order to reach a truce? This whole thing is way too convoluted.

Re: Questions about the Scoppa Brothers [Re: Liggio] #1064795
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Originally Posted by Liggio
I'm convinced that the Sicilians did it. I mean, come on, Salvatore Scoppa apparently had Lorenzo Giordano, Rocco Sollecito, and the Falduto brothers killed from the Sicilian side. Who would've had a bigger motive? Any other theory is just deflection as far as I'm concerned.


The informant testified he recorded Jonathan Massari admitting it but the recording wasn't useable but the police handlers were able to hear it. None of this led to charges for the Sal scoppa murder but it's the best we have for who was behind it. Having the biggest motive doesn't make you responsible and Jonathan Massari had real problems with Sal Scoppa.

Originally Posted by Liggio
What exactly did Vittorio Mirarchi do to get on the bad side of the Rizzutos, for the informant to ask Charlie Renda for permission to kill him? And what if both the Rizzutos and Mirarchi agreed that the Scoppas had to go in order to reach a truce? This whole thing is way too convoluted.


For starters he was with Sal Montagna and Raynald Desjardins when they were targeting them. More recently the informant alleges Vittorio Mirarchi was not only working with Sal and Andrea Scoppa but he claims Vittorio Mirarchi was the one pulling the strings. That would mean he was ultimately responsible for all the murders that took place in 2016. Sal Scoppa wasn't paying his guys what he promise and that's one of the reasons people turned on him.

I'm not sure what you mean what if Vittorio Mirarchi and the Rizzutos made a deal to kill Sal and Andrea Scoppa to reach a truce. It would mean they came to a agreement that resulted in a peaceful resolution. Vittorio Mirarchi has a guardian angel watching over him or something because he was suppose to be killed 29 years ago and then 10 years ago and a few years ago. How many people can say they went against the ruling party 3 times and have lived with not a single attempt on his life.

Re: Questions about the Scoppa Brothers [Re: Liggio] #1064799
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If Massari killed Salvatore Scoppa, then who killed Andrea Scoppa? We've seen time and time again in Italian organized crime that when one brother goes, the other or others go too. This just looks more like a Mafia vendetta than the work of a lone, disgruntled hitman. Just saying. And Sal is a piece of shit for not paying what he promised, especially since the guys they killed were some pretty heavy hitters.

Re: Questions about the Scoppa Brothers [Re: Liggio] #1064811
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Mirarchi is the man in Montreal.

Re: Questions about the Scoppa Brothers [Re: Liggio] #1064822
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Apparently he's the new Vito Rizzuto.

Re: Questions about the Scoppa Brothers [Re: Liggio] #1064826
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If he was sentenced to multiple life terms, then how is he free? That was a very poor article if you ask me, no offense.

Re: Questions about the Scoppa Brothers [Re: Hollander] #1064827
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Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by Scalish
Mirarchi is the man in Montreal.


Not only in Montreal.

CANADIAN MAFIA
Vittorio Mirarchi: Unveiling the Untold Story of a Canadian Mafia Member

https://aboutthemafia.com/vittorio-mirarchi-unveiling-the-untold-story-of-a-canadian-mafia-member/


Lol Hollander delete thatlol nothing in that is right.

Originally Posted by Liggio
If Massari killed Salvatore Scoppa, then who killed Andrea Scoppa? We've seen time and time again in Italian organized crime that when one brother goes, the other or others go too. This just looks more like a Mafia vendetta than the work of a lone, disgruntled hitman. Just saying. And Sal is a piece of shit for not paying what he promised, especially since the guys they killed were some pretty heavy hitters.



More often than not the brothers don't get taken out. Just because one person kills one brother UT doesn't mean they have to to be the ones to kill the other. We don't know who killed Andrea Scoppa but the Rizzutos are the most likely suspects.

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Re: Questions about the Scoppa Brothers [Re: Liggio] #1064828
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You are right I didn't read it (only the title) before I posted lol.


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Re: Questions about the Scoppa Brothers [Re: Mafia101] #1064830
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In the cases where the other brothers weren't taken out, it was mostly due to the fact that the mob didn't feel threatened, and/or the brothers made it clear and convinced them that they wouldn't seek any retribution. Salvatore Scoppa was clearly a threat, he wanted to wipe them all out. Andrea Scoppa claims that he was on bad terms with his brother, but it was still his brother, so you know how that goes. Whatever the case, I'm still not buying the bullshit story of a lone disgruntled hitman or hitmen.

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Yea Mirarchi has 9 lives and must have Jesus backing him up, up there in Montreal

And definitely the Rizzuto’s killed the Scoppa brothers. Sollecito had beef with them as well.

The Mirarchi-Rizzuto truce is very interesting as I wonder if he let them keep the green light on Desjardins?


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