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Re: Questions about the Scoppa Brothers
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07/23/23 11:32 PM
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Liggio they were with the Rizzutos until 2015 when there was a falling out. The top theories for their murder is the Rozzutos killed them but the informant Hollander mentioned said Jonathan Massari and Vittorio Mirarchi were behind Sal Scoppa's murder. If Mararchi was directly involved, how does he survive when others don’t? This informant testified he offered to kill Vittorio Mirarchi when talking to Charlie Renda and Charlie Renda told him no because they needed him for the pipeline. Some articles have made mention of a truce being made. Whatever the exact situation is you can see he's too important to get rid of based on Charlie Renda's reply to the offer. Involved in what exactly? I read something about a truce between the Sollecito-Rizzuto and the Mirarchi camps, and part of the deal was the murder of Salvatore Scoppa. I also saw that post on reddit and the poster said it was just a theory and not something that was reported.
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Re: Questions about the Scoppa Brothers
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07/24/23 01:59 PM
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I'm convinced that the Sicilians did it. I mean, come on, Salvatore Scoppa apparently had Lorenzo Giordano, Rocco Sollecito, and the Falduto brothers killed from the Sicilian side. Who would've had a bigger motive? Any other theory is just deflection as far as I'm concerned. The informant testified he recorded Jonathan Massari admitting it but the recording wasn't useable but the police handlers were able to hear it. None of this led to charges for the Sal scoppa murder but it's the best we have for who was behind it. Having the biggest motive doesn't make you responsible and Jonathan Massari had real problems with Sal Scoppa. What exactly did Vittorio Mirarchi do to get on the bad side of the Rizzutos, for the informant to ask Charlie Renda for permission to kill him? And what if both the Rizzutos and Mirarchi agreed that the Scoppas had to go in order to reach a truce? This whole thing is way too convoluted. For starters he was with Sal Montagna and Raynald Desjardins when they were targeting them. More recently the informant alleges Vittorio Mirarchi was not only working with Sal and Andrea Scoppa but he claims Vittorio Mirarchi was the one pulling the strings. That would mean he was ultimately responsible for all the murders that took place in 2016. Sal Scoppa wasn't paying his guys what he promise and that's one of the reasons people turned on him. I'm not sure what you mean what if Vittorio Mirarchi and the Rizzutos made a deal to kill Sal and Andrea Scoppa to reach a truce. It would mean they came to a agreement that resulted in a peaceful resolution. Vittorio Mirarchi has a guardian angel watching over him or something because he was suppose to be killed 29 years ago and then 10 years ago and a few years ago. How many people can say they went against the ruling party 3 times and have lived with not a single attempt on his life.
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Re: Questions about the Scoppa Brothers
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07/25/23 09:33 AM
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Lol Hollander delete that nothing in that is right. If Massari killed Salvatore Scoppa, then who killed Andrea Scoppa? We've seen time and time again in Italian organized crime that when one brother goes, the other or others go too. This just looks more like a Mafia vendetta than the work of a lone, disgruntled hitman. Just saying. And Sal is a piece of shit for not paying what he promised, especially since the guys they killed were some pretty heavy hitters. More often than not the brothers don't get taken out. Just because one person kills one brother UT doesn't mean they have to to be the ones to kill the other. We don't know who killed Andrea Scoppa but the Rizzutos are the most likely suspects.
Last edited by Mafia101; 07/25/23 09:35 AM.
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