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Re: Why Did the mob love Frank Sinatra?
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06/04/23 11:22 PM
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Most Americans, including Mob guys, find celebrities and others who lead public lives fascinating, attractive, glamorous, rich and powerful, etc. For that matter, many Americans find Mob guys, especially those often in the news, fascinating, attractive, glamorous, rich and powerful, etc. Entertainers and politicians often cross paths with gangsters because of OC's involvement in movies, music, TV, lobbies, PACs, unions, etc. Sinatra was popular with Mafiosi for the reasons Jace and others said. It was a two-way street: Sinatra fancied himself a "tough guy," and liked to be around Mob guys. Here's a link to an article that's relevant: https://www.ranker.com/list/celebrities-with-alleged-ties-to-the-mafia/josh-heller
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Re: Why Did the mob love Frank Sinatra?
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06/06/23 05:44 PM
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Because they Owned him.
He was connected. I believe this to be the correct answer. He was a money maker for them and he worked for guys who were connected that were involved in the recording industry. If he hadn't been Italian and the mob didn't have their hands in on him as an act, they wouldn't have given a fuck. Thats why they didn't give a fuck about the Rolling Stones because they were not a mob connected entertainment act. They owed nothing to the mob. The entire Rat Pack band was owned by the Mob and they were getting a huge cut from their shows in Vegas as well. Like you said, the MOB owned Frank Sinatra. If he would have told them to fuck off he would have become trunk music. No doubt about it.
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Re: Why Did the mob love Frank Sinatra?
[Re: RushStreet]
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06/06/23 10:30 PM
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Because they Owned him.
He was connected. I believe this to be the correct answer. He was a money maker for them and he worked for guys who were connected that were involved in the recording industry. If he hadn't been Italian and the mob didn't have their hands in on him as an act, they wouldn't have given a fuck. Thats why they didn't give a fuck about the Rolling Stones because they were not a mob connected entertainment act. They owed nothing to the mob. The entire Rat Pack band was owned by the Mob and they were getting a huge cut from their shows in Vegas as well. Like you said, the MOB owned Frank Sinatra. If he would have told them to fuck off he would have become trunk music. No doubt about it. There is no evidence of the mafia owning him, that dumb. It's even dumber to say they owned the entire rat pack.
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Re: Why Did the mob love Frank Sinatra?
[Re: jace]
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06/07/23 12:30 PM
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Because they Owned him.
He was connected. I believe this to be the correct answer. He was a money maker for them and he worked for guys who were connected that were involved in the recording industry. If he hadn't been Italian and the mob didn't have their hands in on him as an act, they wouldn't have given a fuck. Thats why they didn't give a fuck about the Rolling Stones because they were not a mob connected entertainment act. They owed nothing to the mob. The entire Rat Pack band was owned by the Mob and they were getting a huge cut from their shows in Vegas as well. Like you said, the MOB owned Frank Sinatra. If he would have told them to fuck off he would have become trunk music. No doubt about it. There is no evidence of the mafia owning him, that dumb. It's even dumber to say they owned the entire rat pack. The RAT Pack performed at Casinos that were all owned by the MOB. They made big money there and the MOB got a huge cut of those profits!!!!! The mob Owned the entertainment they chose to book at these casinos, that is a fact! Frank Sinatra and Dean Martin sucked the dicks of mob bosses, that is another fact. BTW I have heard that Dean Martin was a fucking closet fag. Back then can you imagine if he would have came out as gay? He would have lost his career. So he sucked dick behind closed doors instead and many mob bosses were fucking queers as well.
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Re: Why Did the mob love Frank Sinatra?
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06/07/23 01:30 PM
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Because they Owned him.
He was connected. I believe this to be the correct answer. He was a money maker for them and he worked for guys who were connected that were involved in the recording industry. If he hadn't been Italian and the mob didn't have their hands in on him as an act, they wouldn't have given a fuck. Thats why they didn't give a fuck about the Rolling Stones because they were not a mob connected entertainment act. They owed nothing to the mob. The entire Rat Pack band was owned by the Mob and they were getting a huge cut from their shows in Vegas as well. Like you said, the MOB owned Frank Sinatra. If he would have told them to fuck off he would have become trunk music. No doubt about it.
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Re: Why Did the mob love Frank Sinatra?
[Re: RushStreet]
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06/07/23 08:39 PM
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Because they Owned him.
He was connected. I believe this to be the correct answer. He was a money maker for them and he worked for guys who were connected that were involved in the recording industry. If he hadn't been Italian and the mob didn't have their hands in on him as an act, they wouldn't have given a fuck. Thats why they didn't give a fuck about the Rolling Stones because they were not a mob connected entertainment act. They owed nothing to the mob. The entire Rat Pack band was owned by the Mob and they were getting a huge cut from their shows in Vegas as well. Like you said, the MOB owned Frank Sinatra. If he would have told them to fuck off he would have become trunk music. No doubt about it. There is no evidence of the mafia owning him, that dumb. It's even dumber to say they owned the entire rat pack. BTW I have heard that Dean Martin was a fucking closet fag. Back then can you imagine if he would have came out as gay? He would have lost his career. So he sucked dick behind closed doors instead and many mob bosses were fucking queers as well. Nonsense. 3 wives, countless mistresses and 8 children is a bit too much effort for any gay man to front don't you think?
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Re: Why Did the mob love Frank Sinatra?
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06/08/23 07:33 AM
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Because they Owned him.
He was connected. I believe this to be the correct answer. He was a money maker for them and he worked for guys who were connected that were involved in the recording industry. If he hadn't been Italian and the mob didn't have their hands in on him as an act, they wouldn't have given a fuck. Thats why they didn't give a fuck about the Rolling Stones because they were not a mob connected entertainment act. They owed nothing to the mob. The entire Rat Pack band was owned by the Mob and they were getting a huge cut from their shows in Vegas as well. Like you said, the MOB owned Frank Sinatra. If he would have told them to fuck off he would have become trunk music. No doubt about it. Statements made by informant such as "Fischetti rather orders him (Sinatra)" and "Fischetti is Sinatra", or even "Sinatra being extremely powerful force in the entertainment field"....proves my previous statement that Sinatra was quite influential in the entertainment biz which was quite lucrative situation for the Mob during the 50s, 60s and 70s. Second, the informant gives us the difference between giving an order and doing a favor. The file clearly states that Sinatra received orders from Joe Fischetti, which means someone (Sinatra) mightve being "employed" in one of the Outfits crews aka the Cicero/Fischetti crew. Again, theres a huge difference between a "favor" and "order". This statement can be backed up by the info in the second file in which Giancana threatened the Genoveses that if his proposal wasnt satisfied, they were going to take Sinatra with them (Chi Outfit) to any other place around Florida. Again dont get me wrong since Im not saying that Sinatra was 100% made or even a high level associate or "entertaiment puppet", but still the previous files are giving me something to think about, meaning there might be some details in Sinatras career for which we still dont know anything about...the feds obviously suspected something and no wonder why theres a whole FBI file regarding his activities...
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