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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #1059604
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https://www.justice.gov/opa/page/file/1037286/download

https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...eurs-quebecois-incarceres-aux-etats-unis

2 links to other grandparent scams involving men from montreal, one of which is the brother of bernard cherfan, rony. rony along with his brother bernard are now both dead. bernard in a june 2022 murder and rony in 2021. rony as far as i can tell was not murdered but i cannot find a cause of death. both cherfan brothers have been linked to supporting and hiding frederick silva.

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https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...es-par-un-incendie-criminel-en-24-heures

A business in Saint-Léonard, Montreal, was targeted Thursday morning by arson, the second in the space of 24 hours.

The police were called around 4 a.m. for an arson fire that broke out in the Ciociaro Sports Bar & Grill establishment located near Langelier and Lavoisier boulevards.

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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #1059620
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Who's torching cars, restaurants and businesses across Montreal?
https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...staurants-and-businesses-across-montreal

Voici ce que cache la vague d’incendies criminels dans le grand Montréal
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2...cendies-criminels-dans-le-grand-montreal

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #1059621
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https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...staurants-and-businesses-across-montreal

Who's torching cars, restaurants and businesses across Montreal?

More than 50 cars and five businesses set ablaze at 18 separate locations in last month

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #1059622
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Hi Antimafia,

Here we are thinking alike again. We posted the same article. wink

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #1059624
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Great minds and all that. lol lol

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: Ciment] #1059625
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Originally Posted by Ciment
https://montrealgazette.com/news/lo...staurants-and-businesses-across-montreal

Who's torching cars, restaurants and businesses across Montreal?

More than 50 cars and five businesses set ablaze at 18 separate locations in last month


'Probably organized crime': Montreal police probe wave of arsons, extortion attempts
https://montreal.citynews.ca/2023/05/18/probably-organized-crime-montreal-police/

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #1059628
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Jesus this city has gone fucking mad lol. Whether she was involved or not, killing a woman is definitely a new low


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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #1059631
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if she’s involved then I don’t see why shouldn’t she be hit like any other guy

women have been active in OC in Italy a lot, and some were taken out in a similar fashion


Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #1059639
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I guess it depends on what she's actually done. If her only crime is laundering money then I fail to see the upside


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Had to be a fool, had to throw it all away
Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #1059641
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https://themobmuseum.org/blog/top-5-women-of-organized-crime/

TOP 5 WOMEN OF ORGANIZED CRIME
MEN HAVE LONG GOVERNED THE MOB WORLD BUT THE GENDER GAP HAS NARROWED WITH RISE OF FEMALE BOSSES IN ITALY

In most cases the women that got involved, their brother or father ,dead or in prison , held a high ranking job.
I doubted that Claudia did. This is why I don't think it was a contract killing. She may have been involved in something else or owed money to someone.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #1059690
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Sober reminder from Antonio Nicaso on Twitter earlier this morning:

Antonio Nicaso @AntonioNicaso

Mafiosi show no mercy towards women. Over the past six years, at least three women have fallen victim to deadly ambushes in Canada, directly associated with organized crime activities. In Italy, over 150 women have been killed by mafia organizations since the late 19th century.

3:44 AM · May 19, 2023

https://twitter.com/AntonioNicaso/status/1659464922995085312?s=20

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #1059691
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The Corsican Mafia killed a woman 10 years ago : Marie-Jeanne Bozzi.

She was the sister of a Corsican Boss who had a feud with another clan. She was a politician but she was also handling some of the businesses of the clan and was even an accomplice in the murder attempt of the rival Boss. I guess the rival clan thought she was fair game after that.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #1059696
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https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna39724114

Some women have been killed by their own partner or family as depicted in this 2010 article.

Cops: Female mafia informant dissolved in acid
A mafia informant who disappeared nearly a year ago was tortured and her body dissolved in acid by her former partner and other family members angry that she had cooperated with authorities, Italian police said Monday.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #1059697
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https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/children-murdered-mafia-italian-mobsters-3402712

Not only do they kill women but also children.

EXCLUSIVE: Children murdered by the Mafia as Italian mobsters sink to new low.

In a 2014 article: Domenico is the latest of 80 children killed in Mafia hits. More than 800 adults who had no involvement in the feuds have also been murdered, all just “collateral damage” in a violent war for mob supremacy in crime-ridden cities like Naples.

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #1059793
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #1059794
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Intriguing tweet earlier this morning by Milan-based journalist Antonio Talia, who has spent time in Canada:

Antonio Talia @AntonioTalia

In Canada gli equilibri criminali sono sempre più precari. Secondo alcune voci potrebbe già essere scattata la ritorsione per l’omicidio di Claudia Iacono, uccisa a Montréal 3 giorni fa. Iacono era la nuora del boss mafioso di origini calabresi Moreno Gallo.

2023-05-20, 5:52 AM

https://twitter.com/antoniotalia/status/1659859718586630144?s=46&t=ec5JjzW4kIbijwKywCiI0w

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #1059802
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Finally we see the big picture which I suspected all along but need to see if Ontario Ndrangheta was involved. Robert Barletta involvement clarifies it.

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These articles also clarify the Wooley situation and possibly the killing of Mario Macri in Lasalle. Very interesting. It now seems evident on who the feuding parties are.

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I read an article once about Domenico Violi saying something about together with the biker he controls Hamilton. I think it was the Globe and Mail.
Which makes me think about Barletta again. Barletta was also linked with the gambling network in Ontario. These are two good articles.

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You got your work cut out for the day. Lot's to type about . Your crystal ball just got defogged. wink

Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over [Re: antimafia] #1059809
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Well look like some Hells Angels could be part of the attempt on the life of leonardo rizzuto.
Well, Del baso is close to Martin robert, and like the news said before, the day of the attempt, del baso and robert martin were on vacation together.

There was the big meeting of all the hells angels of Canada and Martin robert and Plouffe were not present…. What does it mean…. Did the HAs kicked out Robert and Plouffe ? I guess not all the HAs are ok with the attempt assasination of Leonardo.

Also, Woolley and Cazetta are really close with the Rizzuto clan…. We know Woolley will probably side with the Rizzuto.
But what about Cazetta? If Martin and Plouffe really goes to war with the Rizzuto’s…. How the HAs of Quebec will react ?

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Yes Cazzetta is close to Rizzuto but he is also close to Sergio Piccirilli and Piccirilli is close to Martin and everybody knows which side Sergio is on. Cazzetta may decide to not get involved. This explains why he retired but his loyalty is to the bikers.I don't think the HA's of Quebec will go against their own. Most likely Martin/Plouffe had prior meetings with the bikers prior to engaging in such a move.

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Cazzetta didn’t retire.
They tried to retired him, but he’s now a member of the HAs South chapter.
He’s no longer a member of the HAs Montreal chapter, the chapter of Robert and Plouffe.

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Thanks for the info. Blackmobs. Do you know the status of his friend Brunetti is he active or retired ?

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very good point black mobs and ties into some thoughts i've had. cazzetta has moved to south chapter as best evidence suggests. which may mean cazzetta is not allied or on board with what robert/plouffe is up to and requested a move. HA do move between chapters that in itself is not rare but the timing is curious that is for sure.

from the latest la presse articles of this morn one of my theories about who is attacking whom proves to be partially true. theory #2 of rizzuto/sollecito vs. del balso and robert/plouffe. however there was no mention in either article of where marco pizzi and davide barberio fit into this. my theory had included them against the r/s faction.

and still fighting over "the book" just incredible. is it actually a book? at this point maybe a thumb drive. i like the idea though of a ye olde book being moved around and secreted filled with past debts and such. whatever form it holds it is obviously still of extreme value. the involvement of barletta is curious and i dont think conclusively proves 'ndranheta involvement. but again is another intriguing angle to all this.

finally though a statement on pietro d'adamo's status. still considered based in lasalle but now or for some time working with sollecito. so his loyalty can be said to be for the rizzuto/sollecito faction.

more to follow a little later...rainy saturday.

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brunetti only got his full patch status back in 2018 i believe. i would say still active and part of HA mtl chapter.

piccirilli and where he lines up is a question though. i couldnt say either way where his loyalty lies. i know he was once sharon simons boyfriend and worked with cazzetta but that was so long ago seems irrelevant.

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So why did a woman become the target though? Is this Rizzuto saying how dare you attempt to kill me? We will kill anyone, male or female, so don't mess with us?

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Had Moreno Gallo ties to Italy? Why did he choose Mexico when he was expelled from Canada?


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from la source, the andrea scoppa book he states that both moreno gallo and carmine antonio vanelli has business interests down there. perhaps easier to try to get back into canada for gallo. he had been deported in jan 2012 i think and was working on returning legally before his murder.

and i still cant fit claudia iaconos murder into any of this.

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