mafia101 assuming you r correct that the mafia in montreal is not "officially" a recognized mafia family along the same criteria as the genovese for example. does it change anything? the murder,arson,gambling and drug dealing will not stop. nothing changes. we will never know either way regardless. is there an official opening ribbon cutting of a commission sanctioned amico nostra family? whether the are or arent we will never know without a cooperating witness to confirm.

if the commission or some other body exists that would make such a judgement does indeed still exist those in the montreal mafia are not listening and not following any of the rules. so for those that want to include the mtl mafia in a list of current active families in north america they can. and those that dont recognize it dont include. seems easy. and hardly worth all the arguing.

and to another of yer points about being italian,associating with other italians and committing crimes does not make u a mafia family you r correct it does not...but its a good start.

i find montreal the most interesting OC city because of all the questions it still poses about structure,administration the sheer number of intersecting criminal groups and rackets.