Originally Posted by Hollander
Originally Posted by Strax
Originally Posted by Hollander


Probably prosecutors def want to indict them but have little chance if the judges are also freemasons lol. One thing I would like to know is MMD's ties to P2, P3.


I don't think P2 exist anymore, there are P3 and P4, Pantaleone Mancuso was caught on tape mentioning P3 and P4. We know nothing more than that, they are probably most powerful masonic lodges in Italy.


The alleged pact between the State and Mafia fell apart in 2002. Cosa Nostra had achieved nothing. There were no revisions of Mafia trials, no changes in the law of asset seizures and no changes in the harsh prison laws (41 bis). But I do think after 2002 the freemasons have only become more powerful also because Provenzano led a moderate mafia that is what the freemasons wanted.

I believe that the criminal system is weaker than in the 1980s and 1990s when the Freemasons could count on the mafia to kill anyone with impunity