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The state of the Outfit in Chicago.
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https://gangsterreport.com/the-stat...jimmy-i-preparing-for-syndicates-future/
The State Of The Mob In Chicago: Winds Of Change Blowing In Windy City “Outfit,” Solly D, Jimmy I Preparing For Syndicate’s FutureJanuary 7, 2023 — The Chicago mafia landscape is on the verge of a transition period in 2023 and the old-school Outfit bosses are taking the necessary precautions, preparing for their younger, more polished successors to lead the historic crime family into the future, sources on both sides of the law tell Gangster Report. Seasoned Outfit shot caller Salvatore (Solly D) DeLaurentis has been the boss of the Chicago mob for several years now, but plays no role in day-to-day affairs, sources say. Instead, according to these sources, the 84-year old “Solly D” defers to his alleged underboss James (Jimmy I) Inendino, 80, and reputed street boss Albie (The Falcon) Vena, 74 and gives them autonomy in most leadership decisions. [Rest of content deleted. Please don't post copyrighted articles from paysites --JG]
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Re: The state of the Outfit in Chicago.
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If it's true that Sally Cards heads a faction with a couple of dozen soldiers in their 40s and 50s, and Fratto oversees his own "youth" faction, then we are looking at an organization that has been inducting a lot of guys in the past 10-15 years. It literally goes against everything we've been led to believe about the Chicago Outfit. I don't believe they are anywhere near their former glory, but reports of their demise might have been exaggerated. This is the exact reason you have only had hardly any made guys flip in the history of the outfit. There are plenty of guys right now who are made today and in years past that aren't even on any FBI Charts you can find online at the moment.
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Re: The state of the Outfit in Chicago.
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I read it somewhere awhile back but i cant remember who the new go between guy is for the Outfit and the Outlaws??....Louis something i want to say.....and do we know who it is they deal with since Mark Polchan aka Porkchop went away with Michael Sarno. Good to see someone else from Central IL on here!
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Re: The state of the Outfit in Chicago.
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I read it somewhere awhile back but i cant remember who the new go between guy is for the Outfit and the Outlaws??....Louis something i want to say.....and do we know who it is they deal with since Mark Polchan aka Porkchop went away with Michael Sarno. I know who you're referring to but won't say his name since it's unconfirmed and wasn't originally shared here and his name has never been mentioned on the forum or publically linked to the Outfit or Outlaws. This was shared privately to someone and I don't know if that someone was given permission to share it else where. What I will say is it was never said he's the new go between between the Outfit and Outlaws
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Re: The state of the Outfit in Chicago.
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01/23/23 01:46 PM
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there has been a lot of discussion on this forum about current state of the OUTFIT going into 2023. the following is breakdown of the alleged 4 remaining street crews. i will make no attempt to prove structure or overall leadership of these crews.
note: as mentioned above i alleged the presence of 4 street crews. there still is debate if the chicago heights crew exists or if at some point in the early to mid 1990's the crews territory and membership was brought under control of the 26th street crew/ southside. i am of the belief that under the leadership of john monteleone any and all remnants of the chicago heights crew came under the 26th street/ south side crew. also in 2005 family secrets trial both marcello brothers were identified as members of the melrose park crew. melrose park operated as crew separate from cicero i believe at one time being led by sam carlisi in 1980's and then james marcello in 1990's up until his imprisonment. anthony zizzo became crew boss up until his 2006 murder/disappearance. i am of the belief that melrose park no longer exists as a separate crew, any and all remnants would now fall under the cicero crew. finally there exists the possibility that todays OUTFIT consists of 2 large crews CICERO AND GRAND AVENUE with all remaining members and associates falling in line under the 2. -thoughts on all the above would be appreciated and judgement free...unless totally ridiculous.
note: names in bold are best guess MADE MEMBERS/SOLDIERS. will not define capos/crew leaders.
elmwood park crew 1.JOSEPH ANDRIACCHI 2.JOSEPH DIFRONZO 3.ROBERT ABBINANTI 4.RUDOLPH C. FRATTO 5.ANTHONY R. DOTE 6.carl dote (associate)-brother to anthony. 7.william daddono jr. (associate)-brother in law to fratto. 8.william degironemo (associate)-once arrested with fratto. 9.gino cassano (associate)-brother to angelo,vito and dominick. 10.gioacchino galione (associate)-arrested with gino cassano 2021 as part of extortion scheme. 11.alphonse mitria (associate) 12.anthony buttitta (associate) 13.dominic buttitta (associate)
-5 MADE MEMBERS/SOLDIERS with 8 associates. i am not sure who cassano,mitria and the buttittas would report to if still criminally active.
grand avenue crew 1.ALBERT VENA 2.CHRIS SPINA 3.ROBERT DOMINIC 4.JOHN MATASSA JR.-continuing debate over what crew if any he belongs to. other possibility would be cicero but can find no proof of this. matassa jr. was at some point the crew leader of old north side/rush street crew. the north side/rush street crew was absorbed into grand avenue to the best of my knowledge in the 1990's. there also exists the possibility that matassa jr. operates across all crews similar to anthony ortenzi. this may be where the unproven claims of him being consigliere may arise from. 5.ROBERT PANOZZO (Imprisoned) 6.robert urbinati (associate)-former member on centracchio crew. 7.bruce principato (associate) 8.david perez (associate)-one time associate of deceased charles russell. 9.frank obrochta (associate) 10.louis capuzi (associate) 11.brian david (associate) 12.fred pordyla (associate)-possibly deceased?
-5 MADE MEMBERS/SOLDIERS with 4 currently on the street. principato,perez,obrochta,capuzi and davis all have past arrests for burglary/robbery.7 associates.
cicero crew 1.SALVATORE DELAURENTIS 2.JAMES INENDINO 3.DINO MARINO 4.SALVATORE CATAUDELLA 5.ROBERT BELLAVIA 6.EMIL SCHULLO 7.MICHAEL SPANO SR. 8.michael spano jr. (associate)-son of sr. 9.michael marcello (associate)-brother to james and currently imprisoned. 10.vito r. scavo (associate) 11.william didomenico (associate) 12.natale s. saraceno (associate) 13.dino vitalo (associate) 14.john amabile (associate) 15.michael davis (associate) 16.paul carparelli (associate) 17.dominic poeta (associate) 18.casey szaflarski (associate)
-7 MADE MEMBERS/SOLDIERS with 11 associates.
26th street/south side crew 1.FRANK CARUSO 2.NICHOLAS FERRIOLA 3.NICHOLAS GUZZINO 4.bruno caruso (associate)-brother to frank. 5.leo caruso (associate)-cousin to frank and bruno. 6.william pacella (associate) 7.arthur nuzzo (associate)-son of sam nuzzo sr. 8.sam nuzzo jr. (associate)-son of sam sr. and brother to arthur.
-3 MADE MEMBERS/SOLDIERS with 5 associates.
-total possible members and associates... MADE MEMBERS/SOLDIERS=20 associates=31
-all of this is an attempt at total numbers. i am under no illusions that there are more active members/associates in chicago today. i do not live in illinois or chicago so i am not able to obtain info direct from the street via bars and neighborhood gossip. some sources used to find these names include...indictments,arrest records,chicago tribune and suntimes articles,laborers OC reports,abc7 local chicago online articles,reddit,american newspost and current/past contributions on this website/forum.
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Re: The state of the Outfit in Chicago.
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01/23/23 04:35 PM
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Where are you located Tuna? I am in Champaign.
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Re: The state of the Outfit in Chicago.
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Re: The state of the Outfit in Chicago.
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01/27/23 06:58 PM
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mafia 101 I’m not the only one that knows the real story…
Wayne Skip DedinaThat black child wasn't beaten for wandering into the neighborhood he was the offender in a violent strong arm robbery who was pointed out by the victim! 37m Like Reply 1 Jeff Mcnally Wayne Skip Dedina media sometimes spins things for there own agenda,I didn't remember all the details
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Re: The state of the Outfit in Chicago.
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01/27/23 08:06 PM
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Typing something isn't backing up what you said
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Re: The state of the Outfit in Chicago.
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looking for some insight on a hypothetical idea i have been pondering. while i mostly spend my time attempting to figure out the intricacies of the mafia in mtl, something always pulls me back to chicago. there is a clear line on this forum amongst chicago outfit aficianados and mob watchers in general. one side believes that much like all other mafia families in US the outfit is a shell of its former self and holds almost no influence or power in the city, with an old and diminishing membership. the other side believes there is still a fully functioning structured outfit operating, yet on a smaller less noticeable scale, with a younger group of members allegedly starting to emerge. i put myself somewhere in the middle, leaning closer to a viable, functioning outfit.
but to those that claim it is a shell of its former self...of course it would be. how could it not. the outfit in the 60's and 70's even into 1980's was the most powerful mafia group in the u.s. it is not that now obviously, so by that rationale it is not the same. but that does not mean it has not changed both structure and area of operations like any secretive organized crime group should.
so i digress from the above abe simpson like diatribe to my original thought. is it possible that the current chicago outfit circa 2023 going into 2024 still divides the city and suburbs geographically? my thought being is it divided by west north avenue/the 64 running from lake michigan/downtown chicago almost on a straight line west all the way out of the city and suburbs proper? other theories in the past have used the eisenhower expressway as this alleged division line. in this theory any territory north of the 64 would fall into control of an area now under control of street boss albert vena. territory south of the 64 falls under control of whomever now leads the other area...i.e. frank "toots" caruso or salvatore cataudella or an unknown senior member?
the only other possibility as i have stated previous is that no territories exist and it is open season on all potential rackets.
finally what do some think of the status of the remaining street crews. grand avenue, elmwood park, cicero, 26th street? is there still 4 main crews operating in the city or has even this number decreased or consolidated into 2 now larger area street bosses?
my thoughts being... street boss (north) albert vena controlling the remains of grand ave and elmwood park.
street boss (south) frank caruso-only alleged controlling remains of cicero and 26th st.
looking for any insight into all this from those in the know about the outfit currently. i am not looking for historical answers to these current questions. where or what territory some of these crews used to control is irrelevant to this discussion unless there is some proof or accuracy to the info from at least the 2000's. an example of this could be info concerning the former chicago hts. crew. i am of the opinion that the chicago hts crew no longer exists and has not for a long time. untila name comes along or a significant bust concerning some outfit connected crew emerges there has been no real outfit operations in the heights and area since the early 90's. i am not saying there is no crime in this area or any crimes connected to the outfit in this area, but as of now we do not know who they are or if the outfit even continues to hold sway in these areas.
as has been seen with some of the larger gambling busts lately it does not take an army of men to control a large scale gambling ring. the days of 20-30 man arrests for running a sportsbook are gone. most connected to the outfit lately involve a leader w a few agents taking bets, which are funneled through a costa rican based web server. this looks to be the standard M.O. across most mafia families recently. how many men were busted with carparelli for collecting debts? 7. one small group collecting money for one crew of outfit, not all the crews. all to say the vast pool of muscle and low level workers is not necessary in this day and age for the outfit or any mafia family really. we cannot be surprised if membership is smaller than in the past, there is no cause to have that many people working for you. less rackets and territory can only equal less members required.
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