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Corleone sons
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mustachepete's The Godfather Notebook thread:
From the Preface, and on the cover:
"When I realized that I was actually going to make a movie out of the novel 'The Godfather,' I sat down and began to read the book again, very carefully, my pencil poised. Upon that second reading, much of the book fell away in my mind, revealing a story that was a metaphor for American Capitalism in the tale of a great king with three sons: 1. the oldest was given his passion and aggressiveness; 2. the second his sweet nature and childlike qualities; 3. and the third, his intelligence, cunning and coldness;
Glad Vito's aggressiveness and coldness is acknowledged but sweet nature and childlike qualities; How so?
also deviated from all live happily for a hundred years -- the family.
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Vito also encouraged Tom to keep his own identity and surname Hagen because Tom is not a wartime Consiglieri and uh -- there are reasons why Tom must have no part in what is going to happen! Michael too invited very old friends! to Anthony's party Kay -- I'm sorry about all the people today -- bad timing -- it couldn't be helped though Coppola : Upon that second reading, much of the book fell away in my mind That is very kind of him You tell him! that's greatly appreciated binning those awful, boring stuff....
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For me , the interesting aspect of "the second his sweet nature and childlike qualities" passage is that it has very little to do with Fredo/Freddy as portrayed in the book. He's quite a cold character, actually.
He was quite a cold character, turning traitor for his brother's murder, to be Don
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He got no fatherly love fatherly guidance fatherly responsibility Great Mafia King but no father I reckon, the Great Mafia King neglected his blood family, leaving all sorts of needless problems behind Sonny No guidance to hotheaded, bad Don and blind eye to his infidelity Fredo He was left rudderless, resulting him turning traitor for his kid brother's murder, to be Don Michael The only mentoring he got was coaching him about the Baptism massacre and leaving him with a murderous legacy Connie deaf ear to spousal abuse, resulting in Sonny's murder
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For me , the interesting aspect of "the second his sweet nature and childlike qualities" passage is that it has very little to do with Fredo/Freddy as portrayed in the book. He's quite a cold character, actually.
He was quite a cold character, turning traitor for his brother's murder, to be Don the oldest was given his passion and aggressiveness; 1. What is this passion Coppola envisaged? I can't recall them being passionate about anything though 2. Sonny's aggressiveness; was pure aggression, brutal force 3. Vito didn't fly off the handle like he did the second his sweet nature and childlike qualities; 1. Where did Coppola get this qualities; that it has very little to do with Fredo/Freddy as portrayed in the book. 2. if He's quite a cold character, actually. and the third, his intelligence, cunning and coldness; 1. reckon pretty much sums it up! 2. though greed for Roth's business was nearly his undoing
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He got no fatherly love fatherly guidance fatherly responsibility Great Mafia King but no father Extracts: I reckon, the Great Mafia King neglected his blood family, leaving all sorts of needless problems behind Fredo He was left rudderless, resulting him turning traitor for his kid brother's murder, to be Don "How did things ever get so far? I don't know -- It was so -- unfortunate -- so unnecessary".... Fredo "turning traitor for his kid brother's murder, to be Don" and Michael killing Fredo The more we discuss the Great King Vito, the more I am baffled how Vito is fêted as the family man Vito was instrumental, contributed and caused the misery of every one of his children to their gloom and doom including the violent deaths of Santino and Fredo Thanks! Pop
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He got no fatherly love fatherly guidance fatherly responsibility Great Mafia King but no father I reckon, the Great Mafia King neglected his blood family, leaving all sorts of needless problems behind Sonny No guidance to hotheaded, bad Don and blind eye to his infidelity Fredo He was left rudderless, resulting him turning traitor for his kid brother's murder, to be Don Michael The only mentoring he got was coaching him about the Baptism massacre and leaving him with a murderous legacy Connie deaf ear to spousal abuse, resulting in Sonny's murder I think you're being a bit harsh on Vito here. We see him criticize Sonny for the "comedy" with Lucy Mancini and his outburst in the Sollozzo meeting. Surely there was plenty of other guidance we didn't see onscreen. And the coaching of Michael we see is clearly just part of their interactions after Michael's return from Sicily. As for Fredo, we really don't know what support he got from his father. He did seem to be treated well and warmly, although Vito's "Fredo was..well..." comment was dismissive but also probably accurate as to his potential. I've always wondered whether Fredo's childhood pneumonia we see in GFII left him permanently diminished. I do agree that Vito's apparent unwillingness to meddle in Connie's romance with Carlo was very harmful to pretty much everyone in the Family, including Connie.
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Vito pursued the best available options to secure a relatively good life for his children.
Santino was never going to be anything but a gangster,and Vito knew that for the Corleone Family business to survive, Sonny had to be the one at the helm.
Vito provided for Fredo,the weak and dimwitted son by placing him under the protection of the Molinaro Family. He would still have an income,but would never be a target for a takeover by any rival Families, since no one took him seriously as a potential leader.
Initially,Vito wanted Mike to pursue the legitimate world,and I believe that he would have used any of his influence and resources to bring that about. When Sonny was killed,Vito realized that the future of the Corleone organization now rested squarely on Mike's shoulders,and acted accordingly.
Even though Tom was not blood,Vito knew the value he brought,and made sure that his hands were kept as clean as possible.
As far as Connie,she was not a "masculine child" and in the old school mentality that Vito possessed, her job was the 4 C's (cook,clean,children,church) I believe that in the novel,Vito's solution to the domestic violence in her home was that she should not give her husband a reason to beat her. Once she married,she no longer belonged to her Father,but instead,to her Husband.
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Great King Vito did nothing to nurture Fredo even before he was displeased with Fredo's "sexual excesses"
Poor Fredo copped it from everyone - Vito, Carmela, Sonny, Michael, Greene, Deanna He got no fatherly love fatherly guidance fatherly responsibility Great Mafia King but no father Extracts: I reckon, the Great Mafia King neglected his blood family, leaving all sorts of needless problems behind Fredo He was left rudderless, resulting him turning traitor for his kid brother's murder, to be Don Sonny dead and Michael in hiding in Sicily It is fleshed out in the book that Vito, cruelly and contemptuously dismissed Fredo that Carmela can still cook their meals or similar when Tom asked should Fredo be brought home
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Extracts: Why agree daughter to marry Carlo Vito had him checked over before their marriage and kept tabs on him after Connie deaf ear to spousal abuse, resulting in Sonny's murder I do agree that Vito's apparent unwillingness to meddle in Connie's romance with Carlo was very harmful to pretty much everyone in the Family, including Connie I believe that in the novel,Vito's solution to the domestic violence in her home was that she should not give her husband a reason to beat her. Once she married,she no longer belonged to her Father,but instead,to her Husband Vito's That solution gave everyone a place to hang their hat! It is fleshed out in the book, Carlo and Connie were moved into the Corleone Mall after Sonny's murder Keeping the enemies closer
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Upon that second reading, much of the book fell away in my mind That is very kind of him You tell him! that's greatly appreciated binning those awful, boring stuff.... Especially that ghastly stuff about Lucy! But as I wrote in another thread, I would have liked to have seen Paulie's backstory in the film.
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True lucab19 there were some great backstories and story lines Though I will have to search for that passage about Paulie's To summarise, he was given the task of exacting revenge on the punks who defiled Bonasera's daughter. And he carried it out perfectly.
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2. while it was a business meeting, he could have shown appreciation for his welcome party! before dismissing Get rid of it
Michael happily married need and care for wife No Vegas girls
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As far as Connie,she was not a "masculine child" and in the old school mentality that Vito possessed, her job was the 4 C's (cook,clean,children,church) I believe that in the novel,Vito's solution to the domestic violence in her home was that she should not give her husband a reason to beat her. Once she married,she no longer belonged to her Father,but instead,to her Husband. What reason she give her husband to beat her
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