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but the story was still pretty much the same was it not?
What's Scarface have that's in that league? It's direction is nothing special, and not much was even changed from Stone's script other then some corny moments like Montana using an Uzi and grenade launcher. If Pacino didn't do the movie and it was just another average Joe, it would probably be mediocre to me. All it is to me is a solid film with a good performance from Al Pacino.
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I too think Scarface kicks ass, but that's just in the impact of favorites, I would never use that to justify any serious rating.

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I say it's a mob movie because a central theme of the movie has to do with the mob. Sure it's not a Goodfellas, Casino or Godfather but the mob is still a pretty big part of the storyline and that's why I classify it somewhat as a mob movie.
What central theme? A few connected characters are slightly involved in the film and it's somewhat? The central themes would be self-destruction and themes of sexual paranoia. Even in a Scorsese Virgin Film book I have that goes into very deep thought on every work he has done from commercials to films does not mention the mob aside mentioning who people like Salvy are.

There are even parallel themes between Taxi Driver and Raging Bull but the mob has no central theme at all.

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