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Re: Why was Albert Anastasia killed? [Re: NYMafia] #1028913
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And for the record as DD says, I am not getting offended at all and don't consider it an "attack on my intellect" as you stated. Unless you call defending my position on the subject getting offended or feeling "attacked."

Nobody is "attacking" me here. Nor am I "attacking" anyone back. I don't view dissenting opinions as attacks against me. So please don't misinterpret my supporting my viewpoints as being hostile. Because they are not.

Re: Why was Albert Anastasia killed? [Re: NYMafia] #1028921
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No, the answer to those questions are not exclusive, but does take time to "research". The fact that you put forth a theory and say this is the way it is, and dont answer the questions presented to you by side stepping them and saying that it doesn't affect your theory. When in fact the answers to those questions answers a lot of why things and events went the way they did. You say you are tired of people copying your work and presenting as their own work when in fact you have been caught doing the exact same thing.
Final questions, why did Joe Biondo and Joe Riccobono twist Carlo Gambinos arm in keeping Aniello Dellacroce out of harm's way? What could a soldier like Dellacroce have done or be worth saving for? Why did Gambino shelf Biondo instead of out right ordering him killed? Who was Joe Biondo on good talking terms with that could guarantee his survival? Why was Joe Riccobono made Consigliere over Arthur Leo or Joe Traina? Why did more members in the Gambino family and other families believe what Riccobono was saying about Albert Anastasia and the reason Anastasia had to be killed?


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Re: Why was Albert Anastasia killed? [Re: Giacomo_Vacari] #1028922
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Originally Posted by Giacomo_Vacari
No, the answer to those questions are not exclusive, but does take time to "research". The fact that you put forth a theory and say this is the way it is, and dont answer the questions presented to you by side stepping them and saying that it doesn't affect your theory. When in fact the answers to those questions answers a lot of why things and events went the way they did. You say you are tired of people copying your work and presenting as their own work when in fact you have been caught doing the exact same thing.
Final questions, why did Joe Biondo and Joe Riccobono twist Carlo Gambinos arm in keeping Aniello Dellacroce out of harm's way? What could a soldier like Dellacroce have done or be worth saving for? Why did Gambino shelf Biondo instead of out right ordering him killed? Who was Joe Biondo on good talking terms with that could guarantee his survival? Why was Joe Riccobono made Consigliere over Arthur Leo or Joe Traina? Why did more members in the Gambino family and other families believe what Riccobono was saying about Albert Anastasia and the reason Anastasia had to be killed?



When has NYMafia been "caught" copying anyone's work?

Edit: I ask this because I had to put protective measures on the site after finding NUMEROUS people who have lifted our original work not only all over the web and social media but also on YOUTUBE...so I literally had to file numerous copyright infringements which I won.

Oh, also these people who lifted our work, admitted lifting our work, and then add: "You have great content." To which I reply: We do. That's why everyone steals it.

So. I'll wait while you tell me how we were "caught."

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Re: Why was Albert Anastasia killed? [Re: MafiaStudent] #1028926
01/26/22 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by MafiaStudent
Originally Posted by Giacomo_Vacari
No, the answer to those questions are not exclusive, but does take time to "research". The fact that you put forth a theory and say this is the way it is, and dont answer the questions presented to you by side stepping them and saying that it doesn't affect your theory. When in fact the answers to those questions answers a lot of why things and events went the way they did. You say you are tired of people copying your work and presenting as their own work when in fact you have been caught doing the exact same thing.
Final questions, why did Joe Biondo and Joe Riccobono twist Carlo Gambinos arm in keeping Aniello Dellacroce out of harm's way? What could a soldier like Dellacroce have done or be worth saving for? Why did Gambino shelf Biondo instead of out right ordering him killed? Who was Joe Biondo on good talking terms with that could guarantee his survival? Why was Joe Riccobono made Consigliere over Arthur Leo or Joe Traina? Why did more members in the Gambino family and other families believe what Riccobono was saying about Albert Anastasia and the reason Anastasia had to be killed?



When has NYMafia been "caught" copying anyone's work?

Edit: I ask this because I had to put protective measures on the site after finding NUMEROUS people who have lifted our original work not only all over the web and social media but also on YOUTUBE...so I literally had to file numerous copyright infringements which I won.

Oh, also these people who lifted our work, admitted lifting our work, and then add: "You have great content." To which I reply: We do. That's why everyone steals it.

So. I'll wait while you tell me how we were "caught."


Ain't that the truth! LOL.... I don't need to copy anyones work. (I wouldn't waste my time with 90% of the trash and incorrect information most of these so-called researchers write anyway. I have way too much integrity and knowledge of the subject matter to do that). Period!!

Re: Why was Albert Anastasia killed? [Re: Giacomo_Vacari] #1028927
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Originally Posted by Giacomo_Vacari
No, the answer to those questions are not exclusive, but does take time to "research". The fact that you put forth a theory and say this is the way it is, and dont answer the questions presented to you by side stepping them and saying that it doesn't affect your theory. When in fact the answers to those questions answers a lot of why things and events went the way they did. You say you are tired of people copying your work and presenting as their own work when in fact you have been caught doing the exact same thing.
Final questions, why did Joe Biondo and Joe Riccobono twist Carlo Gambinos arm in keeping Aniello Dellacroce out of harm's way? What could a soldier like Dellacroce have done or be worth saving for? Why did Gambino shelf Biondo instead of out right ordering him killed? Who was Joe Biondo on good talking terms with that could guarantee his survival? Why was Joe Riccobono made Consigliere over Arthur Leo or Joe Traina? Why did more members in the Gambino family and other families believe what Riccobono was saying about Albert Anastasia and the reason Anastasia had to be killed?


I'd like to know the answers to these questions....


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Re: Why was Albert Anastasia killed? [Re: Giacomo_Vacari] #1028956
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Originally Posted by Giacomo_Vacari
No, the answer to those questions are not exclusive, but does take time to "research". The fact that you put forth a theory and say this is the way it is, and dont answer the questions presented to you by side stepping them and saying that it doesn't affect your theory. When in fact the answers to those questions answers a lot of why things and events went the way they did. You say you are tired of people copying your work and presenting as their own work when in fact you have been caught doing the exact same thing.
Final questions, why did Joe Biondo and Joe Riccobono twist Carlo Gambinos arm in keeping Aniello Dellacroce out of harm's way? What could a soldier like Dellacroce have done or be worth saving for? Why did Gambino shelf Biondo instead of out right ordering him killed? Who was Joe Biondo on good talking terms with that could guarantee his survival? Why was Joe Riccobono made Consigliere over Arthur Leo or Joe Traina? Why did more members in the Gambino family and other families believe what Riccobono was saying about Albert Anastasia and the reason Anastasia had to be killed?


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Re: Why was Albert Anastasia killed? [Re: NYMafia] #1028959
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Albert Anastasia and Frank Costello hits are tied, both Calabrese and their factions had become too powerful.

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Re: Why was Albert Anastasia killed? [Re: NYMafia] #1028960
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In '56 Joe Adonis was either sent to prison or returned voluntarily to Italy . He chose the latter. Adonis was a strongman of Costello's, that was the beginning of the feud. With Adonis gone the real troubles started.


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Re: Why was Albert Anastasia killed? [Re: Hollander] #1028961
01/27/22 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Hollander
In '56 Joe Adonis was either sent to prison or returned voluntarily to Italy . He chose the latter. Adonis was a strongman of Costello's, that was the beginning of the feud. With Adonis gone the real troubles started.


Correct Hollander. Frank and Albert (as fellow Calabrese) were said to be extremely tight and usually backed one another play. The deposing of one allowed for a crack in there armor to bang out the other one. Thats accepted fact and certainly makes sense.

Joe Adonis was deported by to Italy under threat by the U.S. Government. But once there, Adonis had lots of money, tangible assets, and sources of racket and legit income back in America that allowed him to so live out his life in luxury, not wanting for nothing.

As you mentioned he was also close to Costello. So was Willy Moretti for that matter who was another Calabrese very close to Costello. In fact Frank elevated Moretti to serve as his trusted underboss for years. Until of course Vito schemed to get Willy killed in 1951.

So between sheer fate and several backdoor machinations, Frank was slowly weakened to the point on becoming vulnerable.

Re: Why was Albert Anastasia killed? [Re: NYMafia] #1028962
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Another good saying that you often hear nowadays is, "They hate ya, cause they ain't ya!"

These words can certainly be applied to Frank Costello's situation, and many other scenarios as well.

Frank was so good at what he did. So successful at what he did, that he actually made it look easy. Many people in both the underworld and the upper-world were in awe of him for that. But like anything else in life, there are always a few haters out there also. History tells us that Frank Costello obviously had his. The biggest of which was Vito, who in particular was obsessed with him and took years to try and plot Costello's downfall.

PS: But it actually backfired on Vito. No sooner had he deposed Frank, Vito was jailed and died behind prison walls like a dog at approximately 71 years old...Frank on the other hand, lived the remainder of his life in spender. He died of natural causes in his own bed between silk sheets (with his shoes off), at the very respectable age of 83.

I'd rather be Frank over Vito any day of the week. Frank had real talent and business acumen. Vito had only viciousness and venom. How bout you guys?

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