Exactly, that snake Gravano lied on people to justify whacking them, and Gotti got caught venting his frustration on tape over it. What many people perceive as Gotti laying all the blame on Gravano, was actually just a frustrated boss venting his frustration over his underboss's conniving ways, and that's the truth. The only thing that I can say in Gravano's defense is that if not for Gotti's mouth, they wouldn't have been sitting in a courtroom together in that particular time.