Originally Posted by Evita
Originally Posted by Capri
We always knew Michael were too smart to let Roth beat him

So we now say Rocco was the second traitor and the one who killed the two assassins?

No doubt Roth was not as smart and cunning as Michael
Also overthought, missed his chance and became the hunted one

1. Rocco or whoever the second traitor who killed the bedroom shooters
2. why there had to be these shooters in the first place
Too hard basket! No one has the answer


There's a big difference between asking someone to provide information, or maybe even open drapes, and asking someone to kill their Don.

First of all, there's a totally different skill set involved. Fredo was apparently very useful to Roth as an informant. But would you trust him to carry out a hit?

Plus, the assassin's role is pretty much a suicide assignment. If no assassins were found on the compound, it would point to a very small group of suspects (even if the killer was not caught in the act, was able to hide the gun, get back to their room, etc.). Any chance of advancement in the new Corleone Family would be ruined even if they survived. Why would they agree to do that for Roth?

Originally Posted by lucab19
I started a thread about Roth's plan and how stupid/unnecessary it was. All he had to do was bide his time for a couple of weeks, have Michael killed in Cuba, use his connections to the Bautista regime to blame it on Castro and his rebels and he wins.


Maybe, but I think it was more like a few months. That's a long time to wait. A lot could have happened in that time, such as Michael figuring out that Roth is his enemy (actually, I think Michael already knew, but didn't expect such an aggressive move from Roth), Michael making further inroads in Roth's Nevada holdings, Fredo slipping up and revealing something, etc.

Last edited by The Last Woltz; 10/27/21 03:19 PM.

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