GangsterBB.NET


Funko Pop! Movies:
The Godfather 50th Anniversary Collectors Set -
3 Figure Set: Michael, Vito, Sonny

Who's Online Now
2 registered members (Trojan, 1 invisible), 656 guests, and 26 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Shout Box
Site Links
>Help Page
>More Smilies
>GBB on Facebook
>Job Saver

>Godfather Website
>Scarface Website
>Mario Puzo Website
NEW!
Active Member Birthdays
No birthdays today
Newest Members
TheGhost, Pumpkin, RussianCriminalWorld, JohnnyTheBat, Havana
10349 Registered Users
Top Posters(All Time)
Irishman12 69,463
DE NIRO 44,965
J Geoff 31,308
Hollander 27,076
pizzaboy 23,296
SC 22,902
Turnbull 19,624
Mignon 19,066
Don Cardi 18,238
Sicilian Babe 17,300
plawrence 15,058
Forum Statistics
Forums21
Topics42,930
Posts1,073,139
Members10,349
Most Online1,100
Jun 10th, 2024
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Who was the most powerful Consigliere #1019399
09/04/21 01:32 PM
09/04/21 01:32 PM
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 859
Zavattoni Offline OP
Underboss
Zavattoni  Offline OP
Underboss
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 859
II was wondering who was the most powerful Consigliere?

My vote would be Bobby Manna because he had a very heavy influence in the Genovese's; and was close with Vincent Gigante; He also had 4-5 crews in New Jersey that he oversaw.

My other vote would be Antonio Caponigro; He had his own boss whacked (Angelo Bruno)

My 3rd and final vote would be; Stefano Cannone; Phil Rastelli had him as his #2 even though he was Consigliere.

Would love other opinions!


“I called your f—— house five times yesterday, now, if you’re going to disregard my m—– f—— phone calls, I’ll blow you and that f —— house up… This is not a f—— game. My time is valuable. If I ever hear anybody else calls you and you respond within five days, I’ll f—— kill you.” ~ John Gotti.
Re: Who was the most powerful Consigliere [Re: Zavattoni] #1019401
09/04/21 02:06 PM
09/04/21 02:06 PM
Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 283
N
Njein Offline
Capo
Njein  Offline
N
Capo
Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 283
Mine would be:

-Frank Costello
-Anthony Spero
-Quiet Dom Cirillo
-Mike Miranda
-Tom DiBlella
-Vincent Rao
-John Tartamella

Re: Who was the most powerful Consigliere [Re: Zavattoni] #1019402
09/04/21 03:01 PM
09/04/21 03:01 PM
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,939
ralphie_cifaretto Offline
Underboss
ralphie_cifaretto  Offline
Underboss
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,939
Fat Tony Salerno had more power than God

Re: Who was the most powerful Consigliere [Re: Zavattoni] #1019403
09/04/21 03:02 PM
09/04/21 03:02 PM
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 1,861
L
Louiebynochi Offline
Banned
Louiebynochi  Offline
Banned
L
Underboss
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 1,861
Chicago Consigliere Anthony Accardo....

Last edited by Louiebynochi; 09/04/21 03:02 PM.

A March 1986 raid on DiBernardo's office seized alleged "child pornography and financial records." As "a result of the Postal Inspectors seizures [a federal prosecutor] is attempting to indict DiBernardo on child pornography violations" according to an FBI memo dated May 20, 1986.
Thousands of pages of FBI Files that document his involvement in Child Porn
https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/star-distributors-ltd-46454/
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/0...s-Miporn-investigation-of/7758361252800/
https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/1526052/united-states-v-dibernardo/
Re: Who was the most powerful Consigliere [Re: Zavattoni] #1019404
09/04/21 03:05 PM
09/04/21 03:05 PM
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,939
ralphie_cifaretto Offline
Underboss
ralphie_cifaretto  Offline
Underboss
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,939
Tony Accardo was an overrated bum lol. New York is where its at Lou

Re: Who was the most powerful Consigliere [Re: Zavattoni] #1019411
09/04/21 03:43 PM
09/04/21 03:43 PM
Joined: Nov 2019
Posts: 931
Word Wide
MolochioInduced Offline
Underboss
MolochioInduced  Offline
Underboss
Joined: Nov 2019
Posts: 931
Word Wide
Tom Hagen lol


In Sicily, women are more dangerous than the shotgun.
Re: Who was the most powerful Consigliere [Re: MolochioInduced] #1019421
09/04/21 05:44 PM
09/04/21 05:44 PM
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 814
Friend_of_Henry Offline
Underboss
Friend_of_Henry  Offline
Underboss
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 814
Originally Posted by MolochioInduced
Tom Hagen lol

It wasn't that Tom was a bad Consigliere, Sonny was a bad Don ;-)


"Never walk in a room that you don't know how to get out of"- Henry Zottola
Re: Who was the most powerful Consigliere [Re: Friend_of_Henry] #1019458
09/04/21 11:05 PM
09/04/21 11:05 PM
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 19,624
AZ
Turnbull Offline
Turnbull  Offline

Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 19,624
AZ
Meyer Lansky. Although he wasn't Italian or a member of any family, he was Charlie Luciano's most trusted adviser and very influential with Frank Costello and Joe Adonis.


Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu,
E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu...
E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu
Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
Re: Who was the most powerful Consigliere [Re: MolochioInduced] #1019460
09/04/21 11:06 PM
09/04/21 11:06 PM
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 4,441
M
MeyerLansky Offline
Underboss
MeyerLansky  Offline
M
Underboss
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 4,441
for me it's sil !

Re: Who was the most powerful Consigliere [Re: Zavattoni] #1019478
09/05/21 10:00 AM
09/05/21 10:00 AM
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 3,675
J
jace Offline
Underboss
jace  Offline
J
Underboss
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 3,675
If Frank Costello served in the role as NJein mentioned in his post above, he has my vote as the most powerful. I would say However Accardo is very strong competition for that spot.

Re: Who was the most powerful Consigliere [Re: Zavattoni] #1019479
09/05/21 10:18 AM
09/05/21 10:18 AM
Joined: Sep 2019
Posts: 11,306
N
NYMafia Offline
NYMafia  Offline

N

Joined: Sep 2019
Posts: 11,306
In my humble opinion, the Luciano Family's, Francesco Saverio (Frank Costello) Castiglia, was without a doubt the most influential 'consigliere' to ever hold that position in a borgata.

He would later rise to 'acting boss' over the whole lot, but his time as consigliere was such that he ruled the Democratic Political machine in NY, and was a puppet master. He ruled quietly for decades in that position, and was the ultimate 'peacemaker,' which helped maintain stability within not only the Luciano/Genovese Family, but throughout all Cosa Nostra.

Vincent (Vincy) Rao of the Gagliano/Lucchese's, and Tony Accardo for Chicago, are both solid runners up. But IMO Costello stands alone in his influence and good judgment.

THAT was a consigliere!

Re: Who was the most powerful Consigliere [Re: Zavattoni] #1019588
09/06/21 10:07 PM
09/06/21 10:07 PM
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 2,186
B
bronx Offline
Underboss
bronx  Offline
B
Underboss
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 2,186
joe traina

Re: Who was the most powerful Consigliere [Re: Zavattoni] #1019594
09/07/21 02:35 AM
09/07/21 02:35 AM
Joined: Aug 2017
Posts: 705
C
ColonelReb Offline
Banned
ColonelReb  Offline
Banned
C
Underboss
Joined: Aug 2017
Posts: 705
Tony Accardo. Hands down

Re: Who was the most powerful Consigliere [Re: Zavattoni] #1019610
09/07/21 02:44 PM
09/07/21 02:44 PM
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 260
Millspgh Offline
Capo
Millspgh  Offline
Capo
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 260
Many "experts" classify Tony Accardo as the Outfit Consiglieri, if that is the case, there is nobody who was more powerful. But In Reality, he was more than that although he did serve that role from 1957-1992.
I would give him my vote.

This is a great topic and question by the way

Last edited by Millspgh; 09/09/21 05:28 PM.
Re: Who was the most powerful Consigliere [Re: Zavattoni] #1019612
09/07/21 05:16 PM
09/07/21 05:16 PM
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 3,675
J
jace Offline
Underboss
jace  Offline
J
Underboss
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 3,675
I had not thought of Accardo, he may be the best top choice.

Re: Who was the most powerful Consigliere [Re: Zavattoni] #1019613
09/07/21 05:29 PM
09/07/21 05:29 PM
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 859
Zavattoni Offline OP
Underboss
Zavattoni  Offline OP
Underboss
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 859
I hadn’t thought about Accardo; I think he may be the most powerful followed by Frank Costello;

I should have thought more about some of these guys before I made this topic.


“I called your f—— house five times yesterday, now, if you’re going to disregard my m—– f—— phone calls, I’ll blow you and that f —— house up… This is not a f—— game. My time is valuable. If I ever hear anybody else calls you and you respond within five days, I’ll f—— kill you.” ~ John Gotti.
Re: Who was the most powerful Consigliere [Re: Zavattoni] #1019622
09/07/21 07:32 PM
09/07/21 07:32 PM
Joined: Sep 2019
Posts: 11,306
N
NYMafia Offline
NYMafia  Offline

N

Joined: Sep 2019
Posts: 11,306
IMO, Accardo was more than a consigliere. He was a boss, underboss, and consigliere, all rolled into one. He and Paul Delucia changed hats as need be through the years. Accardo wore all hats. He was one of a kind
--
But Frank Costello (IMO) was probably the best example of a true blue "Consigliere" in every sense of the word. In the truest sense. Moderate in his views. Level-headed, non-violent unless forced to be. Conciliatory, intelligent and savvy, he invested borgata money in unbelievable licit and illicit enterprises to 'grow' the family war chest, etc, etc.

Each of these two men died in their own beds as multimillionaires with their shoes off, surrounded by silk sheets and house maids. Need I say more?

Re: Who was the most powerful Consigliere [Re: NYMafia] #1019656
09/08/21 01:23 PM
09/08/21 01:23 PM
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 1,861
L
Louiebynochi Offline
Banned
Louiebynochi  Offline
Banned
L
Underboss
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 1,861
Originally Posted by NYMafia
IMO, Accardo was more than a consigliere. He was a boss, underboss, and consigliere, all rolled into one. He and Paul Delucia changed hats as need be through the years. Accardo wore all hats. He was one of a kind
--
But Frank Costello (IMO) was probably the best example of a true blue "Consigliere" in every sense of the word. In the truest sense. Moderate in his views. Level-headed, non-violent unless forced to be. Conciliatory, intelligent and savvy, he invested borgata money in unbelievable licit and illicit enterprises to 'grow' the family war chest, etc, etc.

Each of these two men died in their own beds as multimillionaires with their shoes off, surrounded by silk sheets and house maids. Need I say more?



Right, let’s just admit you were wrong...and like I said before everyone else...Chicago Consigliere Anthony Accardo was the most powerful followed in the rear by Costello, who was BRIEFLY(5 years)consigliere before becoming Acting Boss and later Boss for Luciano


A March 1986 raid on DiBernardo's office seized alleged "child pornography and financial records." As "a result of the Postal Inspectors seizures [a federal prosecutor] is attempting to indict DiBernardo on child pornography violations" according to an FBI memo dated May 20, 1986.
Thousands of pages of FBI Files that document his involvement in Child Porn
https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/star-distributors-ltd-46454/
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/0...s-Miporn-investigation-of/7758361252800/
https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/1526052/united-states-v-dibernardo/

Moderated by  Don Cardi, J Geoff, SC, Turnbull 

Powered by UBB.threads™