Originally Posted by Louiebynochi

Anastasia abused Gambino 100%(was probably verbal not physical) Gravano and others have confirmed this
And the “authority” of the mafia in prison? Haha that’s a joke
Gotti 100% paid protection to the AB. The aryan brotherhood was indicted and convicted for it...the mob has 0 clout in prison compared to the AB or La Eme. These gangs control prison its not the streets of Howard Beach or Morris Park in there...Gotti wasn’t scared. Its just a fact of life in there. You pay them if your a white inmate or your eventually murdered especially at the places where they have heavy clout like Marion,Florence,Leavenworth and Lewisburg....[/b]
The mafia exercising control in high security federal prisons since the late 80s is an exercise in nostalgia...


First of all, I don`t think I said the mafia`s "authority" in prison, and I use quote marks for the word for a reason. What I meant to say is that the mafia is portrayed as extremely powerful in general, and being able to challenge them is still to present-day viewed by many as the proof of power. You don`t see people on the internet constantly talking about how someone beat up a gangbanger or a biker, because it doesn`t make them feel special. But beating up a mob boss? That`s a huge thing to brag about or to use to back up someone`s claim about a certain group`s power.

Secondly, what do you mean the aryan brotherhood was indicted for it? They were indicted for receiving money from Gotti? Can you provide the source for this? I knew Gotti had business meetings with the AB commission in Marion and a prison guard even said that the AB became better organized because Gotti told them how to run the gang like a mafia family. https://ganglandwire.com/gotti-inside-prison-walls/
Also a former AB member claimed that Gotti was providing one of the Aryan leaders a lawyer in exchange for protection, but he didn`t say anything about him actually paying cash to the AB because he was extorted. He wasn`t extorted the AB didn`t muscle him to get payment, they simply had a business deal and when Gotti didn`t deliver what he promised they ended the deal.
https://nypost.com/2006/04/15/gottis-aryan-snub-got-him-beat-in-jail/

Thirdly, I think your comment itself has already proven my point. nobody said the mob "exercises control" in prisons, and I certainly did not say that Gotti was "feared" in prison. I say normally they are strong enough to be left alone by other groups, but mostly they are not a part of the prison politics, at least since the 90s. People like to jump to the gun and say the obvious fact that the mob is not important in prison when no one really claimed otherwise, this phenomenon alone says something about the mob`s "authority" in public opinion, nobody would bother to mention the fact that AB is not important on the streets because that`s pretty obvious and no one expects a prison gang to be powerful outside the prison system, but when it comes to the mob their lack of power in the prisons is something "need" to be addressed.