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Re: Organized crime project (forum) request
[Re: TheKillingJoke]
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06/25/21 08:59 AM
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As far as I'm concerned, I'd love to contribute more than I'm contributing right now, but I'm just unable to spend a lot of time on the internet these days.
I'm doing my best to earn an honest living and keep myself on the straight and narrow and work is a bitch these days (lots of targets, lots of stress, too many whiny superiors and too little pay for the effort I'm putting into it...). That's why I'm sorta focused on the professional side of my life right now, looking for a way to switch jobs etc... Whatever free time I have left I spend on working out and getting involved in discussions about music.
Sometimes other priorities just get in the way... I get it. and thats fine. Life can get in the way sometimes. We all have commitments. Of course there will be people like yourself who can't contribute for various reasons, and of course there are others who do have the time and that was my point, for them to post up more; research, create mob content for us all to enjoy, etc. And that would have been a good thing for the forum, not a bad thing. But you read the response from several posters above didn't you? ... so that's that as they say. Lol. Thanks for the gentlemanly response by the way. It's always nice to speak with level headed people.
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Re: Organized crime project (forum) request
[Re: VitoCahill]
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06/25/21 09:17 AM
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To giacomos point I just posted couple days ago a chart on Chicago outfit 2021. It is not the final say on the current outfit I admit was more an attempt to glean any further info on one of the most important and successful oc groups in history. Since posting....crickets. No interest,not ny related ??? Who knows don't matter. I would like to see more current charts structures of active mafia families,crews,groups. I think alot of members on here r done with rehashing info on families that don't exist or from 5-6 decades ago. And why a chart or list on rats and informants? Yes, I see that. And I agree with you that you do post up. Others who contribute include Hollander, Furio, LouieNochi on occasion, Giacomo, and a few others. And thats great! I am not directing my comments to you guys per se. My statements have more to do with others who may have good knowledge and a knack for research who (for whatever reason) don't participate. I understand that not everyone has the time, but when you can it would be fantastic for GBB if they did jump in. NOT FOR ME. NOT FOR NYM, BUT FOR GBB. (and for us all to enjoy what they could possibly bring to the table). Is that a bad thing? Of course not. But I was not well received by some of the other posters. Why that is is anybody's guess. I for one can't figure it the fuck out. But that's just me I guess. Lol Anyway, I do enjoy what you have posted, and my post was not meant to imply that you or the others who do contribute are not doing your share.
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Re: Organized crime project (forum) request
[Re: Strax]
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06/25/21 09:24 AM
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This place had really high quality posters back in 2011,2012. Back then most of them left this place and went to 'real deal', now all of them are on that other forum(some of us are on both places).
Best poster we have here is Hollander,other high quality posters are m2w(didnt post in a long time),Dwalin2011,antimafia,TheKillingJoke. There are some more but i can't remember nicks right now, but that's about it.
Good luck in what you are trying to accomplish. Thanks Strax, but I'm finished trying to convince people to contribute. I thought I was doing a good thing by mustering the crowd but you see the negative response from some of them. They either don't want change and an increase in real OC content; charts, graphs, stories, deep research, news articles, etc., or they themselves feel threatened by the thought of having to help out. Why that is I don't know. Maybe they feel they don't have the wherewithal to partake so they attack those of us who do. But thank you for your intelligent comments and insight. And I do agree with you that other places have more of what I'm speaking about. I'm not on here for years and years so I don't know the background or drama involved with those who once were members and left for "Real Deal" or whatever. I only know what I know and what I see now. And I was trying to help us. But you see how well that went. Lol
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Re: Organized crime project (forum) request
[Re: Raven]
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06/25/21 10:45 AM
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Maxie why did Lisa dump you and quit working with you? I don't know exactly what you're trying to start here. As I explained on the other board. I decided to go in a different direction and focus on justice/courts/news and thus why I'm no longer involved with NYM. I'm not sure how much more clear that is.
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Re: Organized crime project (forum) request
[Re: Raven]
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06/25/21 10:54 AM
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Can you read? I asked Maxie, not you. You his mouthpiece? Obviously so. Well, when my name is brought into bullshit...I'm going to speak on my behalf. Next time, don't use my name and I won't involve myself.
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Re: Organized crime project (forum) request
[Re: NYMafia]
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06/25/21 05:50 PM
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You questioned my relationship with Lisa, which in reality was nothing more than a failed attempt on your part to take a cheap shot at me which wasn't nice. You fell flat on that one when both Lisa and I immediately shot you down. Silly, babyish behavior on your part. - And ya know Raven, for a fella who claims to despise me and supposedly hates my writings, you sure keep awfully close tabs on me. You seem to have read many of my pieces. So despite whatever you may say to the contrary, you seem to be drawn to me and my website like a moth to a flame. That fact (indisputable by your own admission by the way), speaks volumes about your true feelings and negative intentions toward me. Me thinks you may have ulterior motives that are not so altruistic.
To date ButtonGuys of TNYM has posted: 400 biographies 58 in-depth borgata or regime stories from across the US 4 gangland war stories 13 racket exposes 1000s of mob photographs (many of them rare) info on hundreds of rats, and approximately 100 (at least) or more other stories, personal opinion pieces, and interesting mob related data. Most of which is very singular in nature and unique to say the least. IMO I have brought a breath of fresh air to the well-worn subject of OC. And my record speaks for itself. I certainly don't feel the need to defend myself against the likes of you.
As I stated earlier, the haters such as yourself will always hate. For whatever reason; envy, jealousy, stupidity, ignorance, or personal problems that I cannot help you with. Instead of just reading and enjoying the work, you feel an incessant need to try and tear me and my work down to make yourself feel better. Why that is? Who knows. That question is better answered by a professional shrink than a layman such as myself.
But the vast majority of people enjoy my work and will continue to enjoy and follow my stuff. You are in no way, shape, or form, obligated to read what I write. And I'm completely cool with that.
Whats that old adage, "Ya just can't please all of the people all of the time".......... it's soooo true.
On another note, nobody is infallible, NOBODY! Not even you. And on rare occasion I have made an error or two. I readily admit that. But instead of enjoying and commenting positively about the plethora of enjoyable (and very informative) work I've put up, what do you do instead? You try your damndest to dig out any little misnomer or miscue from all those nice article in a failed attempt to try and discredit me or insult me......Your actions make any intelligent and logical person wonder why that is, and what the "true" motive behind your actions really is.
After hundreds and hundreds of pieces (nearing 1000), and literally millions upon millions of words written, and the "literally" hundreds and hundreds of hours of painstaking work that I put into creating these works, I reserve that right to make a few errors. It goes with the territory as they say. But I stand by my work (one million percent) as being extremely authentic and honest. If you insist on searching for that preverbal 'needle in the haystack,' to try to knock me you can always find one. But in relation to the full body and depth of my work its the equivalent of a pimple on an elephants ass. -- I also don't need to boast or promote myself in any way, shape, or form. Contrary to your statement that I act all "high and mighty" as I think you put it, I am a very humble person but I am proud of my body of work and why shouldn't I be? I've devoted many, many hours and hard work to create The New York Mafia. It's become a solid mob site IMO. And in that regard I am proud.
My work speaks for itself, but if you knew all the kudos and positive feedback I regularly receive from knowledgeable readers and important sources who admire my work you'd probably have a stroke. Knowledgable mob aficionados, respected OC researchers, the blood family members of many of my subjects, as well as actual mob guys themselves. (you want a better recommendation than that? Lol, I don't think so). -- So how about we agree to disagree. You just go your way, and I'll go my way. This way we don't have to clash and there's no BS or drama between us. Whatya say?
Forget about my website and me. Just as I've already discarded and discounted you and your remarks as gibberish from a guy who means absolutely zero to me. It's much better that way for both of us, no?
Yours truly, The Other Guy!
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Re: Organized crime project (forum) request
[Re: NYMafia]
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06/25/21 06:21 PM
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"Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before.†“Quoth the Raven, "Nevermore. Sorry, lol I had to....
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Re: Organized crime project (forum) request
[Re: Tommy2Times]
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06/25/21 08:15 PM
06/25/21 08:15 PM
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"Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before.†“Quoth the Raven, "Nevermore. Sorry, lol I had to....
Oh, a poet eh? Lol Very good T2T
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Re: Organized crime project (forum) request
[Re: hoodlum]
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06/25/21 10:22 PM
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Geoff.....R U really gonna let this guy get away this shit??...I used 2 like N.Y...but..c'mon ..he's trying 2 dominate ur shit....some of us posters enjoy ALL of the threds..(food, movies etc)..but who the hell is he 2 talk like that on YOUR domain????...Actually , I've come 2 the conclusion that N.Y. Mafia is now BORING...all he wants is just the 5 families talk..no inputs..& over & over already known bullshit..ever since Lisa left..he's desperate...I admit...I don't contribute much & alot of our stuff is redundant & these newbies are...well..assholes...but oldheads like myself do not ( & I think I can speak 4 a few other posters..ahem..Dues etc..) ..like any intruders or change..by way of dominating the screenspace w/ his Quizzical " I'm the shit" bullcrap...If SC was still alive..N.Y. would have been banned a while ago......Fuck him & this thread..I'm goin 2 bed..good nite Geoff. I’m with The Good Hood. Wow, I never thought NYMafia would try something like this. They do contribute and put in a lot of content for this section. I wonder, are you trying to compete with another site? GBB forums is not dying, it has many members who's interests are into different topics and subjects. There are many posters who have contributed to this section on different families and crews away from NYC, New Jersey, and Philadelphia. Not all of them are still posting but there are still solid knowledgeable members here. Anyway, Geoff has the finale say and that is that. That’s It. Also, I could be wrong, and please correct me if I am, but you’ve also got a semi permanent derogatory description under your avatar referencing a poster you’ve had ongoing disagreements with? If that’s the case, it’s tells me more about you than it does about them, and actually quite disappointing for a “serious†OC poster. If I’m wrong, it’s maybe worth changing to avoid confusion and ongoing issues Noticed that also. NYMafia, I’ve had a few back and forths with you in the past, having questioned your motives for suddenly becoming heavily involved in posting and, at times, displaying some level of fairly passive/aggressive behaviour…BUT I do genuinely think your research and content is top notch and I’ve said as much to you directly. However, you do tend to get your panties in a bunch very quickly….that’s perhaps why you’re naturally skilful at research and written work, rather than interactions with people and PR. Nothing wrong with that at all, but you need to reflect on things a bit and understand why situations sometimes occur, or at least become prolonged.
As Geoff alluded to, the BB website now includes a whole host of topics, including organised crime..it’s not just a “mob forum†as you seem to think. You can examine the traffic, posts and whatever else you like to prove a case for organised crime material but, at the end of the day, people want to read about various topics and most really enjoy the site as a leisurely pastime. Geoff obviously isn’t in this to make his fortune and, actually, just no doubt takes great satisfaction from having created a site thousands of people have loved for years and continue to.
Like you, people visit, read and post content - yours is great and people tell you so, but stop with this about creating other websites, panels etc etc. No one has expressed any interest in what you suggested, I guess, because they are not interested. You run a website and have a focus on different priorities than everyone on here. Your very quick to judge the site and all its members - its as if you've awarded yourself some authority because you post articles on a regular basis.
You’ve also just said you post on here as a “courtesy†to everyone, GBB “has nothing†(without you I assume) and in a “sorry shapeâ€â€¦well just leave then? Seriously, I read through your posts on this thread and can actually see the slide from extremely nice to then shooting in your pants and quickly becoming downright rude, disrespectful and offensive.. I see this happen a lot and I know you think your defending yourself, but your long winded defences (following overly nice and enthusiastic openings) are actually becoming a very tedious pattern to the eye - and a reason I mostly tend to avoid the organised crime threads you create these days. I’m really disappointed you’ve not avoided this tbh, I really am.
I think your at a crossroads, either continue posting great stuff for your own, and other’s enjoyment, or just leave and concentrate fully on your own projects..even create your own mob forum attached to your site (I’ll take the royalties for that idea 🤔)
Otherwise, you’ll gonna create more stress for yourself, honestly. Yes, as Hood says..well said Fergie. So WELL SAID....ThankU Fergie...& FUCK YOU N.Y.Mafia...u fuckin thief..STAY OFF OUR SITE..! This site has always been fair, lively, wide open and sharing while having some fun. Hope it remains that way.
Be Loyal, Be Loving, Be Quiet.
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Re: Organized crime project (forum) request
[Re: NYMafia]
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06/25/21 10:57 PM
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To giacomos point I just posted couple days ago a chart on Chicago outfit 2021. It is not the final say on the current outfit I admit was more an attempt to glean any further info on one of the most important and successful oc groups in history. Since posting....crickets. No interest,not ny related ??? Who knows don't matter. I would like to see more current charts structures of active mafia families,crews,groups. I think alot of members on here r done with rehashing info on families that don't exist or from 5-6 decades ago. And why a chart or list on rats and informants? Yes, I see that. And I agree with you that you do post up. Others who contribute include Hollander, Furio, LouieNochi on occasion, Giacomo, and a few others. And thats great! I am not directing my comments to you guys per se. My statements have more to do with others who may have good knowledge and a knack for research who (for whatever reason) don't participate. I understand that not everyone has the time, but when you can it would be fantastic for GBB if they did jump in. NOT FOR ME. NOT FOR NYM, BUT FOR GBB. (and for us all to enjoy what they could possibly bring to the table). Is that a bad thing? Of course not. But I was not well received by some of the other posters. Why that is is anybody's guess. I for one can't figure it the fuck out. But that's just me I guess. Lol Anyway, I do enjoy what you have posted, and my post was not meant to imply that you or the others who do contribute are not doing your share. I think you may be missing something Huge about this site. Not everyone is willing to share everything they have to offer for whatever reason. But we are here. Not everyone is well rounded in many aspects of Organized Crime and only know what they know. But we are here. A site like this keeps people updated and knowledgable about certain areas, details and people they were not aware of regarding not only O.C. but entertainment , weather, food and fun details of members and friends who like to share. We can all be here..... why make problems and call people out? " You do this", "You do that " WTF. " Do What You Want " " Carry on and don't make any more messes " DP
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Re: Organized crime project (forum) request
[Re: NYMafia]
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06/26/21 05:48 AM
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I only found out about these forums a couple years ago, observed for a bit then joined. I actually ended up getting ‘blocked’ on The Black Hand for whatever reasons. I’m still allowed to read what is posted, but can’t post anymore.
I assumed they were cool places to ask questions and state opinions, on this one at least, so far so good.
For whatever it’s worth I’ve learned some really cool stuff from places like this, hopefully that continues.
In Sicily, women are more dangerous than the shotgun.
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Re: Organized crime project (forum) request
[Re: jace]
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06/26/21 08:43 AM
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There's a saying about people who can't do something being critics of those who actually do it. NewYorkMafia openly asked if anyone want so be a part of his project, why that would lead to so much BS and insults is not surprising, but sad to see. I hope the project does well. Thanks Jace. And I'm curious, what is that particular saying about "people who can't do something, being critics of those who actually do it?" Please tell us
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