Originally Posted by Mamaluke
My 2cents;

Things like this are formed at the top. So would any of us here rat? I think for MOST of us, it would depend. Lets say you were brought into this thing young. Your whole identity is formed around it. The people around you are stand up guys. They always have your back and do the right thing. You go away your family is taken care of. You get out, you're taken care of. Nobody rats on you, nobody rats on each other.

If you were brought into a strong, tight brotherhood like that you probably wouldnt rat [ unless you're just a weak, selfish coward ].

Now if you were brought into something thats dog-eat-dog? Guys stabbing each other in the back, bosses flipping, you go away your family starves, you come out and nobody has time for you....most people will be much more likely to flip under those circumstances.

So I would say guys ratting is not just about the guys who rat, its about the breakdown of the whole organization.



That's a good post. I will add that to me, one exception is the guys who are in a strong tight group, but rat anyway snd use the excuse that the group was not close or loyal. Every gang from bikers to Bloods, Mexican cartels, the Mafia, all have a rat or 2 regardless of how strong the group is. I get a feeling that the gangs in other countries are the strongest these days (I am in the United States)