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Re: Sal Montagna [Re: Tommy2Times] #1013116
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I've always found the statement from morena about Arcadia,Mucci and cotroni Jr bs.
Arcadi wasn't released from jail until Mar 2017.
Cotroni Jr has no influence in MTL going back probably to the 2004 death of his father. There is no evidence of the cotroni family holding any influence or power since SRS death.
Mucci is a possibility his allegiance during the MTL war has been a ??
Mucci was a longtime member of Paolo violis inner circle so that would make sense.
Also Arcadi is a Rizzuto loyalist and imprisoned or not would not be allied w/ the violi bros.

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Do you guys think that Desjardins and Mirarchi will have their tickets punched? I hope that "Old" fuck gets it soon...

Re: Sal Montagna [Re: Tommy2Times] #1013129
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I'm curious as to what Mirarchi's status is now. He's been out for a while and it doesn't appear that there have been any moves against him. Is he back with Desjardins again?

Re: Sal Montagna [Re: Tommy2Times] #1013142
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Originally Posted by Tommy2Times


Do you guys think that Desjardins and Mirarchi will have their tickets punched? I hope that "Old" fuck gets it soon...


Since his incarceration in December 2011, at least a dozen people associated with him have been murdered, including his brother-in-law and ex-mafia number 2, Joe Di Maulo in 2012, his friend and business partner, Gaétan Gosselin. in 2013, and his older brother, Jacques Desjardins in 2017.


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Re: Sal Montagna [Re: Tommy2Times] #1013202
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Salvatore Montagna grew up in that life. He was a gopher and messenger for his father and uncles, and knew other important mafiosi in CDG and surrounding areas, the Domingos, Buccellatos. His father Antonio sent the family to America in the mid 1980s for safety after he had a talk with Calogreo Minero about Riina and his followers. When they moved to the Bronx, the mafia members the family had the most contact with were Manny Guaragna and Anthony Mascone. Salvatore did part time construction in high school, which he actually graduated from. Around 1988 Gerlando Sciascia had a construction company in the Bronx, and Montagna sought employment there. Not long after that he was on record with Sciascia and at the same time was an iron worker hence his nickname, and his fortunes began to start. He was back and forth between the Bronx and North East Brooklyn. He opened Matrix Steel Company in Bushwick. He was made at the age of 24 or 25, so he was made in either 1995 or 1996. When Sciascia was killed, Montagna was put with Patrick DeFilippo crew to keep an eye on him. Basciano had no problems with him, but Montagna may have suspected Johnny Joe was involved with Gerlandos killing. DeFilippo goes to jail and has legal problems and Montagna is acting Capo of that crew by 2003. Basciano is convicted in May of 2006, and sends word that Montagna is Acting Boss of the family.


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Re: Sal Montagna [Re: Tommy2Times] #1013207
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Giuseppe (Ponytail) De Vito, who was killed behind bars via cyanide poisoning in 2013. De Vito had joined with Desjardins and deported New York mob boss Salvatore (Sal the Ironworker) Montagna to challenge Rizzuto’s power while Rizzuto was locked up. Three of De Vito’s top men, Giuseppe (Joe Closure) Colapelle (2012), Vinnie Scuderi (2013) and Nick Di Marco (2017) have been murdered in the war as well. Joe Closure was De Vito’s liaison to Sal Montagna.


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Re: Sal Montagna [Re: Tommy2Times] #1013208
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I know Domenico Arcuri Jr and Antonio Arcuri were with Sal and Desjardins and Mirarchi were plotting to get them but didn't. Hollander was Joe Closure at one time a higher ranked guy in the Rizzuto faction before becoming a Desjardins loyalist?

Re: Sal Montagna [Re: Giacomo_Vacari] #1013483
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Originally Posted by Giacomo_Vacari
Salvatore Montagna grew up in that life. He was a gopher and messenger for his father and uncles, and knew other important mafiosi in CDG and surrounding areas, the Domingos, Buccellatos. His father Antonio sent the family to America in the mid 1980s for safety after he had a talk with Calogreo Minero about Riina and his followers. When they moved to the Bronx, the mafia members the family had the most contact with were Manny Guaragna and Anthony Mascone. Salvatore did part time construction in high school, which he actually graduated from. Around 1988 Gerlando Sciascia had a construction company in the Bronx, and Montagna sought employment there. Not long after that he was on record with Sciascia and at the same time was an iron worker hence his nickname, and his fortunes began to start. He was back and forth between the Bronx and North East Brooklyn. He opened Matrix Steel Company in Bushwick. He was made at the age of 24 or 25, so he was made in either 1995 or 1996. When Sciascia was killed, Montagna was put with Patrick DeFilippo crew to keep an eye on him. Basciano had no problems with him, but Montagna may have suspected Johnny Joe was involved with Gerlandos killing. DeFilippo goes to jail and has legal problems and Montagna is acting Capo of that crew by 2003. Basciano is convicted in May of 2006, and sends word that Montagna is Acting Boss of the family.



Sometimes when a guy is moved up it is because he is controllable.
Meaning he will be an extension of the actual.

So he is more controllable than capable.

That may have been the case with Montagna, Basciano knew that he could 100% control Sal, and by default the family.



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Re: Sal Montagna [Re: Tommy2Times] #1013488
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We can speculate on Sal all we want. Look at who replaced him when he was deported Vinny TV. I think that guy was easier to control or use as a acting boss then Sal. It clearly shows Sal was a rising star in the family and was not to be used as a front like Fat Tony Salerno was. Lastly, he had to be capable for he lasted, what 3 years as acting boss. He did serve under some great captains (Sciascia, DeFilippo, and Basciano). We need more rats from that family during that time period to fill us in about Sal's short reign lol.

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Re: Sal Montagna [Re: Tommy2Times] #1013508
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One of my friends at work was close with the iron worker. Sal had recently moved from brooklyn to Bellmore i believe . He was acting boss at the time but he didnt have a crew on long island. For some reason the west babylon/babylon area is/was a bonanno breading ground. Knowing this he was going there looking for some guys i took it. Sal was my introduced to my friend by his father who was a long time soldier. Sal and my friend hit it off and became good friends. Sal liked my friend so much he was trying to make him but my friend had no interest in that life. But my friend really liked sal and said he was a really nice guy. Nothing like the hot head, loud mouth inspiring gansters that flooded babylon at the time. I met sal once real quick and he was a genuine polite guy. Sal always had a smoking hot girl with him ill tell you that. Anyway my friend told me about the deportation before it hit the papers. He even made told me Sal was going to take over everything up there like it was easy. Sals body was shipped dowm to long island and he was buried in pinelawn cemetary. Last thing my friend told me about that situation was the funeral was really sad. Sals wife and young kids didnt go to canada with him and stayed on L.I.. Sals wfie and kids missed there hiusband/dad and the when they finally see him its in a casket. My friend said sals family was devasted.

Re: Sal Montagna [Re: Tommy2Times] #1091479
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Calogero Milioto one of his killers is he related to Liborio?

“Liborio Milioto, Nicolò Rizzuto’s half–brother, had a daughter, named Maria in keeping with the tradition. She in turn married Filippo Rizzuto, a brother of future senator Pietro Rizzuto.”


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Re: Sal Montagna [Re: Hollander] #1091481
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Originally Posted by Hollander
His father Antonino Montagna is still a prominent mafioso in CDG.



In short, when an American needed something, he was the one they turned to. Meanwhile, because of Don Ciccio Domingo's relatives. The aunt, Angela Domingo, was married to a member of the Maranzano family (Salvatore Maranzano was the first Italian American mafia boss originally from Castellammare del Golfo, killed in New York on 10 September 1931). And again: Domingo is the "godson" of Antonino Giuseppe Montagna, father of Salvatore Montagna believed to be at the top of the Bonanno family, headed by Maranzano's successor, Joseph Bonanno, murdered on 24 November 2011 in Montreal.


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Re: Sal Montagna [Re: Tommy2Times] #1091491
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The Domingo and Montagna had family relations with Salvatore Maranzano , considered the first Italian-American mafia boss, who was killed in New York in the 1930s. The family link with the overseas boss would be made up of the aunt of the regent of Castellammare, Angela Domingo, wife of Mariano Maranzano, Salvatore's son.


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Re: Sal Montagna [Re: Hollander] #1091560
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Originally Posted by Hollander
His father Antonino Montagna is still a prominent mafioso in CDG.


CDG. isn't that the Gulf cartel from Mexico?

You talking about them or some other group?

Re: Sal Montagna [Re: Tommy2Times] #1091561
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Castellammare del Golfo and his father had died many years prior to that post and hadn't been in CDG for even longer.

Re: Sal Montagna [Re: Tommy2Times] #1091578
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Originally Posted by Tommy2Times

NYMafia yes he had connection but was a foreign boss that tried to take Montreal isnt like in the 1950s while Bonanno sent Galante to Montreal for create a stronghold for drug trafficking.


What doesn't make sense to me is why Montagna would solely try and take over the Rizzuto family without the backing of the Bonanno's, which he was still connected with. Vito was still alive and had many loyal supporters. It would've been better if he just tried to become a liasion between the two families like Sciascia and Joe LoPresti.

Then it shows did the Bonanno family really give two shits about Montagna? Since he was deported and trying to take over the Sixth Family and was killed without any Bonanno retaliation, made me believe they were done with him.

It's a shame since we have this young guy who fast tracked with the Bonanno's to acting boss and getting clipped in Montreal with nobody caring about it.[/quote]


I think what happened was he went up there, and found this whole little empire of rackets and wanted it for himself. I think he played the NY card to the Montrealers, while actually keeping NY kinda in the dark. What I think is Montagna wanted Montreal to himself, but involving NY, it wouldn't be " HIS" anymore.

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Originally Posted by VitoCahill
one of the main reasons montagna was killed is that he thought his former title of acting boss would mean something to criminals in mtl.
for some it did but they were of lower rank in the milieu. for those in power or at the time fighting and being murdered to try to achieve it he was just another criminal looking to take a slice of a dwindling criminal pie. montagnas title upon arrival in mtl 2009 was soldier,he was no longer acting boss he was not a capo. montagna had no ties back to ny and was trying to move into ontario because of the problems in mtl. a small list of converts in mtl:the arcuri family-dom sr./jr.,antonio pietrantonio,lorenzo lopresti doesn't strike me as enough to make a major push.
montagna had noone in ny to trust from a family littered with rats, an anthony seccafico is the only name i could find of a soldier in bonannos who had any connection to montagna and surprisingly he was murdered in july 2009 3 mths after montagnas deportation.
the days of the rizzutos or anyone in mtl paying any kind of respect to bonannos were long gone by 2009.
i know for many on this site this has been a hard concept to deal with but it is true.
why would smart,professional,internationally respected criminals want anything to do with the bonanno family after the boss became a rat?
its not like liborio bellomo was deported to mtl that would be a different story...



Great post here Vito...... Agreed on everything...

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Giuseppe “Joe” Renda was named as the representative of the Rizzuto family at an important gangland funeral in New York in 1999. The funeral — or, more precisely, the murder that prompted it — marked a milestone as it led to the virtual breaking of the Montreal Mafia’s close ties to the New York crime family it had long been subservient to.


Montreal mobster mysteriously vanished in 2012, but only now are police talking about the case
The strange disappearance in 2012 of a Montreal man who was a quiet part of important moments in the history of the Mafia in Canada took an odd twist Tuesday

https://nationalpost.com/news/canad...ly-now-are-police-talking-about-the-case


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