Originally Posted by Turnbull
Originally Posted by Lana

Originally Posted by Turnbull
In the flashback scene at the end of II, after Michael reveals that he joined the Marines, Tom says, "Your father and I have talked many times about your future." Michael fixes him with the Dreaded Corleone Stare and says, "You...talked to my father...about my future?"
Michael would have fixed anyone who dared! to map out his future “with the Dreaded Corleone Stare and said "You...talked to my father...about my future?"

Originally Posted by Turnbull
So, when Sonny was killed, Michael was predisposed to blame Sonny's brother and Vito's consigliere for his death
If I am not misunderstanding your post, you are making a connection between the flashback scene and "Michael was predisposed to blame Sonny's brother and Vito's consigliere for his death"

I fail to see the connection?

Mr Turnbull could you, uh -- amplify your answer a bit? Thanks

Astute question, Lana. smile
I can't prove it--I'm inferring from the number of times we see Michael being abrupt and harsh with Tom, and his statement that "You're not a wartime consigliere," that he doubted Tom's competence. So, I believe it's possible that he might have been inclined to blame Sonny's death on Tom because Tom didn't see Carlo's treachery coming. It's also possible that Michael may have resented that he had to take the reins of the family following Sonny's death, and needed Tom as a scapegoat. Likely? No. Possible? Yes.

Nothing changes the fact that Sonny dug his own grave through his uncontrollable temper.


Also, TB, at the wedding reception Michael tells Kay that Tom is not a Sicilian. There's no need for him state that to Kay. She would not know of its significance. So, why does he say that to Kay? Well, he's expressing some degree of resentment. I also noted that Michael tells Kay "he's [Tom] been with us ever since." That's less than an affectionate expression. So, Michael is predisposed to find fault with Tom.

Last edited by olivant; 05/02/21 03:31 PM.

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