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Re: Roy Demeo originally w the Gallos [Re: Louiebynochi] #1008175
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Originally Posted by Louiebynochi
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Just so you know guys Natale Evola was a Captain in the Lucchese Family, Sally Burns was a in that Family. Forget what you think you know, you're just an internet poster, Joe Valachi said this to be true and he's a made guy.



Valachi didn’t even know most of the people on those charts. The govt was just making some of that shit up that’s a a lot different than Ralph Scopo Sr describing a specific instance where Roy Demeo was with his family and then made a deal to get switched to the Gambinos. And the only place that Lucchese shit even originated from was murdered Machine. You can take Murder Machine “word” all you want but I’m gonna take the word of someone that was there in that era that was close to Roy and was part of that family,not to mention Roy Grew up in a heavy Colombo area on Ave P and grew up next door to the Profacis .... to me it comes down to a simple equation who knew Roy and his history personally better Jerry Capeci and Gene Mustain who are writers or Ralph Scopo Sr who actually lived it??


Yeah that Lucchese backstory was all made up. Forget that after Roy gets whacked not only do Joey and Anthony transfer to the Lucchese Family, but also Carlo Profeta. Your only source is some hearsay from a wire that Ralph Scoop said happened 20 + years prior. No media articles or photos, no surveillance reports or photos. Nothing.

HEY GUYS ROY DEMEO WAS A GALLO CREW MEMBER. THE DAY THEY SAVED THE PUERTO RICAN KIDS FROM THE FIRE ROY WOULD HAVE BEEN THERE BUT HE HAD JUST WENT TO CONEY ISLAND TO GET A NATHANS HOT DOG!!!


Idk what The Testa brothers and Carlo Profeta becoming friendly in the late 70s and early 80s w the Luccheses in CANARSIE which is where they grew up has to do with Roy Demeo growing up in GRAVESEND ON AVE P 20 years prior and the family he started with which was also his childhood friends and RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO HIM. But like I said YOUR WAY MORE CREDIBLE THAN Ralph Scopo Sr who was actually there and lived it.....

So basically what your saying IS RALPH SCOPO SR IS IMAGINING THAT PART OF HIS LIFE where HE WAS CLOSE TO ROY DEMEO(WAY CLOSER THAN JERRY CAPECI AND GENE MUSTAIN) and KNEW HIM SINCE HE WAS YOUNG and described how Roy was with them and thought he would be murdered cause he was w the Gallos and was transferred to the Gambinos
You do know that Canarsie and Gravesend Ave P are 2 diff areas right?

And where he grew up is right on the way to Coney Island.....


So are Gravesend and Red Hook.

Re: Roy Demeo originally w the Gallos [Re: Louiebynochi] #1008177
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Originally Posted by Louiebynochi
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Just so you know guys Natale Evola was a Captain in the Lucchese Family, Sally Burns was a in that Family. Forget what you think you know, you're just an internet poster, Joe Valachi said this to be true and he's a made guy.


LOL...... it's a hopeless endeavor Colonel




One question Ralph Scopo Sr, who ran the Colombo familys construction rackets as President of the Concrete Workers District Council, who was in the life for decades and knew Roy Demeo personally is not a better authority on Roy Demeos history with his own fucking family than what one book said...Ralph Scopo Sr or Capeci and Mustain who has more personal experience in the life?????????

It's not just one book. News articles, media photos, police arrests, surveillance.reports, informants, fbi files, guys that flipped.( You ever hear mIke Franzese, sammy Gravano say " Oh yeah Roy DeMeo was originally with the Colombo Family they were with the Gallos"? They were both associates with Colombo's from around that time. And Mike was A capo and Sammy was UnderBoss so there ya go. My made guys memory Trump's your made guys memory 2-1 and higher rank. Go find a UB to say DeMeo was part of the Gallo crew and we'll be tied .

Re: Roy Demeo originally w the Gallos [Re: ColonelReb] #1008186
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Originally Posted by ColonelReb
Originally Posted by Louiebynochi
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Originally Posted by ColonelReb
Just so you know guys Natale Evola was a Captain in the Lucchese Family, Sally Burns was a in that Family. Forget what you think you know, you're just an internet poster, Joe Valachi said this to be true and he's a made guy.


LOL...... it's a hopeless endeavor Colonel




One question Ralph Scopo Sr, who ran the Colombo familys construction rackets as President of the Concrete Workers District Council, who was in the life for decades and knew Roy Demeo personally is not a better authority on Roy Demeos history with his own fucking family than what one book said...Ralph Scopo Sr or Capeci and Mustain who has more personal experience in the life?????????

It's not just one book. News articles, media photos, police arrests, surveillance.reports, informants, fbi files, guys that flipped.( You ever hear mIke Franzese, sammy Gravano say " Oh yeah Roy DeMeo was originally with the Colombo Family they were with the Gallos"? They were both associates with Colombo's from around that time. And Mike was A capo and Sammy was UnderBoss so there ya go. My made guys memory Trump's your made guys memory 2-1 and higher rank. Go find a UB to say DeMeo was part of the Gallo crew and we'll be tied .


There’s not one surveillance report you can offer or any video of Mike Franzese or Sammy Gravano saying that Roy Demeo didn’t start with the Colombo’s and started w the Luccheses. There’s plenty about Roy with the Gambinos there’s absolutely no mention of his career before that except in Murder Machine and by Ralph Scopo Sr. So your saying Ralph Scopo Sr made that story up out of thin air???


A March 1986 raid on DiBernardo's office seized alleged "child pornography and financial records." As "a result of the Postal Inspectors seizures [a federal prosecutor] is attempting to indict DiBernardo on child pornography violations" according to an FBI memo dated May 20, 1986.
Thousands of pages of FBI Files that document his involvement in Child Porn
https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/star-distributors-ltd-46454/
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/0...s-Miporn-investigation-of/7758361252800/
https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/1526052/united-states-v-dibernardo/
Re: Roy Demeo originally w the Gallos [Re: Louiebynochi] #1008227
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Yeah wiseguys never misremember things. Out of all humans on earth their brains are the only infallible ones. Mike Franzese was made halloween 75, Carmine Persico was a Genovese soldier because Valachi said it.

Roy DeMeo was in the Gallo crew because he grew up near Profaci's and we all know how tight that Profaci/Gallo bond was.

Re: Roy Demeo originally w the Gallos [Re: ColonelReb] #1008235
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Originally Posted by ColonelReb
Yeah wiseguys never misremember things. Out of all humans on earth their brains are the only infallible ones. Mike Franzese was made halloween 75, Carmine Persico was a Genovese soldier because Valachi said it.

Roy DeMeo was in the Gallo crew because he grew up near Profaci's and we all know how tight that Profaci/Gallo bond was.


In some FBI files it's noted that after they broke of from the Gallos, Forlano, Persico and Iacovelli prefered to stay with the Genoveses until their status was settled. I believe that's where all the confusion comes from.

Re: Roy Demeo originally w the Gallos [Re: Louiebynochi] #1008246
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Killing Demeo for being an out of control maniac who refused to reign it in was one thing but killing him because “he might turn out to be a rat” is a pussy move. If every top earner who was also a stone cold killer “might turn rat if indicted” was killed this thing would have been over before it got started.

Re: Roy Demeo originally w the Gallos [Re: Louiebynochi] #1008346
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https://youtu.be/_AWpp6ilOMI

Hey Louie, Larry Mazza was just picked up on this video at 18:44stating that the Gambino family had 1000 made guys. I thought they had around 300-400 during that time topps but it must be true. He's a Wiseguy, I'm just an internet poster so what do I know?

Re: Roy Demeo originally w the Gallos [Re: ColonelReb] #1008362
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Originally Posted by ColonelReb
https://youtu.be/_AWpp6ilOMI

Hey Louie, Larry Mazza was just picked up on this video at 18:44stating that the Gambino family had 1000 made guys. I thought they had around 300-400 during that time topps but it must be true. He's a Wiseguy, I'm just an internet poster so what do I know?


mistating an erroneous number of made guys is alot different than a specific story of how Roy Demeo was originally with the gallos and wasnt going to be murdered by the Colombos but thought he was and got transferred to the Gambinos...your just a troll idiot..

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A March 1986 raid on DiBernardo's office seized alleged "child pornography and financial records." As "a result of the Postal Inspectors seizures [a federal prosecutor] is attempting to indict DiBernardo on child pornography violations" according to an FBI memo dated May 20, 1986.
Thousands of pages of FBI Files that document his involvement in Child Porn
https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/star-distributors-ltd-46454/
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/0...s-Miporn-investigation-of/7758361252800/
https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/1526052/united-states-v-dibernardo/
Re: Roy Demeo originally w the Gallos [Re: Louiebynochi] #1008397
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Originally Posted by Louiebynochi
Originally Posted by ColonelReb
https://youtu.be/_AWpp6ilOMI

Hey Louie, Larry Mazza was just picked up on this video at 18:44stating that the Gambino family had 1000 made guys. I thought they had around 300-400 during that time topps but it must be true. He's a Wiseguy, I'm just an internet poster so what do I know?


mistating an erroneous number of made guys is alot different than a specific story of how Roy Demeo was originally with the gallos and wasnt going to be murdered by the Colombos but thought he was and got transferred to the Gambinos...your just a troll idiot..

Why do u always resort 2 calling ppl names?...I've been following ur posts all these yrs. and sometimes ur just downright mean..some of ur posts are informative & correct..& I respect ur knowledge all things mob...but , dude ..ur not a king among the chessboard.


I didn't want to leave blood on your carpet...
Re: Roy Demeo originally w the Gallos [Re: Louiebynochi] #1008399
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Name calling doesn't hurt my feelings. Americans are too versensitive these days. Banning Disney movies and Dr. Seuss books over "hurt feelings" and "muh raycisssm" !!

Re: Roy Demeo originally w the Gallos [Re: Louiebynochi] #1009746
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Greg Scarpa sided with the Gallos during the Gallo/Profaci War and there's no mention of Roy from his camp during that period. Besides, Joe Gallo was in jail from '61-'71 and Roy hooked up with Nino in '66 so there wouldn't have been much opportunity for Roy to be running with the Galllo's. Roy grew up in the Flatlands, on Ave P., less than ten blocks from the Gemini Lounge. Between 1960 and '66 he quit working at the Meat Cutters and was Shylocking full time and beginning to deal in stolen cars. This brought him over to the junkyards on Foster Ave. and Glenwood Rd. where he connected with Freddy DiNome who brought him into the Lucchese's through his brother Richie. The image on the cover of "For the Sins of My Father" is of Roy during this period with his new car, a benchmark of his success at loansharking.

Re: Roy Demeo originally w the Gallos [Re: Louiebynochi] #1010090
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its ridiculous first time i hear his or read this,,,,he grew up in the neighbor hood around profaci,,, had some connections with the lucheses,,, never any metion with the gallos

Re: Roy Demeo originally w the Gallos [Re: Louiebynochi] #1010091
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It was said by Ralph Scopo Sr who was a lifelong friend of Roy Demo and a member of the colombo family for over 30 years and the head of the concrete workers district council.....


A March 1986 raid on DiBernardo's office seized alleged "child pornography and financial records." As "a result of the Postal Inspectors seizures [a federal prosecutor] is attempting to indict DiBernardo on child pornography violations" according to an FBI memo dated May 20, 1986.
Thousands of pages of FBI Files that document his involvement in Child Porn
https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/star-distributors-ltd-46454/
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/0...s-Miporn-investigation-of/7758361252800/
https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/1526052/united-states-v-dibernardo/
Re: Roy Demeo originally w the Gallos [Re: ColonelReb] #1010102
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Originally Posted by ColonelReb
Name calling doesn't hurt my feelings. Americans are too versensitive these days. Banning Disney movies and Dr. Seuss books over "hurt feelings" and "muh raycisssm" !!



Millions like myself agree, if we had a real media in this country that stuff would never get anywhere.

Re: Roy Demeo originally w the Gallos [Re: Louiebynochi] #1010125
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Not one shred of evidence Louie. Hell at least post the link to that Ralph Scopo transcript ya mook

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Originally Posted by Louiebynochi
It was said by Ralph Scopo Sr who was a lifelong friend of Roy Demo and a member of the colombo family for over 30 years and the head of the concrete workers district council.....

Yeah Made soldier Ralph Scopo is talking to associate James Costigan about dead made Gambino guy Roy DeMeo. I'm sure he's not yanking his chain. If this were a transcript between Scopo and Gerry Lang I might take it more seriously. Scopo is just stroking/scaring this guy ala concrete club business

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I read that DeMeo was before with the Luccheses and that passed with the Gambinos because know Nino Gangi that said hum that with the Gambinos he will made more cash.

Re: Roy Demeo originally w the Gallos [Re: ColonelReb] #1010212
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There's no independent corroboration anywhere else AND Roy was hanging out regularly with the 3 Profaci Bros who lived across the street from his parents hose and knew him from childhood. There's no way Roy would've sided with Galllo's against the Profaci's, for crying out loud. Roy's mother lived with Profaci's widow in Bath Beach when she returned from Italy after leaving Brooklyn after Roy's father died.
The Profaci Bros now run Colavita Olive Oil in N.J.

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I think Roy DeMeo's childhood home is at 4019 Ave P. Brooklyn, N.Y. 11234 if anyone is interested

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