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Re: Roy Demeo originally w the Gallos
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Read a wiretap transcript from the commission trial where Ralph Scopo Sr says Roy Demeo was originally w the Gallos and got switched to the Gambinos because Roy thought the Colombo’s were going to murder him...... Post the link to the transcript. Not once have I ever read in any files, transcripts, etc about DeMeo coming up with the Gallo's and the Colombo Family. He was born in bath beach and gravitated to the Flatlands/Canarsie scrapyard auto area where the Lucchese Family was prevelant. Lucchese associate at first but Nino Gaggi(Bath Beach) put him on record with Gambino in the early 70s. After DeMeo got whacked in 83, his crew members Joey Testa, anthony senter, patty Testa and Carlo profeta went back to the Lucchese Family
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Re: Roy Demeo originally w the Gallos
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The conversation is in the book "Wiretap" by James Goode. Scopo says Roy was with the Gallo's, and later went with the Gambino's because he thought he would get killed by the Columbo's. Scopo says it was worked out for Roy to stay w/the Columbo's, but Roy was scared and changed to the Gambino's. exactly 100% where i got it from and it makes sense what scopo is saying because Roy was born and lived next door to the Profacis Ill post the wiretap verbatim when I get home later ps that Gallo Crew was heavy..The gallos,Mike Rizzi, Bobby Borello and Roy Demeo, dangerous bunch of dudes...
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Re: Roy Demeo originally w the Gallos
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Ralph Scopo talking to James Costigan On April 5th 1984 Roy Demeo , Jimmy when i tell you the guy had cast iron balls. Where they says he was the street enforcer. His names Roy Demeo ... I’m telling you he had balls..... this guy used to be with the Gallos. At that time we were havin a war all right? With the Gallos and Roy was on the Gallo side. Then it was all squared away and peace was made, he was really supposed to come with us, but he was scared. He didn’t come with us. Instead he went to another family and they straightened him out.. So what happened was the Gambinos eventually had the guy killed.Not over our problem but they’re own problem. He was the one who created the problem with the cars going over and I mean he was a tough guy all right. Bein he got picked up they figure “maybe this guy under pressure he’ll ratâ€. Thats bullshit! But not to take the chance, not knowin whether he would or not, they went and killed him! It’s just like what I’m doing now. Say this thing kinda blows up. I’ll be one of the first guys to get arrested. Thanks, great stuff. I need to check out that book...
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Re: Roy Demeo originally w the Gallos
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A while back I started a thread about the Gallos and how I felt that crew was the baddest of all time. Who was in the crew, who moved on to what position in other families etc. And if this is true it just adds to my argument, That crew was loaded with killers, money makers and future leaders. Thro in the biggest set of balls and it's ahard crew to beat Could you dig it up ? I'd be very interested to read that
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Re: Roy Demeo originally w the Gallos
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Upped for anyone that didn’t see and I don’t think age matters much guys get into the life as young 13. Chris Rosenberg was with Roy since he was 16 years old, Henry hill was w Vario since 13, John Gotti went w Charlie Wagons when he was 16 etc etc The Gallo's made tons of headlines back in the day, tons of photos out there. Show me one with Roy DeMeo and the Gallos. Show me one article with Roy DeMeo picked up with the Gallos. The law likewise was all over them day and night. Show me one surveillance report, one cops mention of DeMeo coming into their club. One book that mentions it. To my knowledge their was only one Roy that ran with the Gallos and that Was Roy "Roy-Roy" Musico.
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Re: Roy Demeo originally w the Gallos
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Upped for anyone that didn’t see and I don’t think age matters much guys get into the life as young 13. Chris Rosenberg was with Roy since he was 16 years old, Henry hill was w Vario since 13, John Gotti went w Charlie Wagons when he was 16 etc etc The Gallo's made tons of headlines back in the day, tons of photos out there. Show me one with Roy DeMeo and the Gallos. Show me one article with Roy DeMeo picked up with the Gallos. The law likewise was all over them day and night. Show me one surveillance report, one cops mention of DeMeo coming into their club. One book that mentions it. To my knowledge their was only one Roy that ran with the Gallos and that Was Roy "Roy-Roy" Musico. I just posted a wiretap of someone that was actually there and was recounting the story, someone who was in the life and very close to Roy Demeo. That’s not enough proof for you?Not to mention he grew up next to the profacis in a Colombo area which makes perfect sense along w the wiretap of Ralph Scopo Sr describing what happened...
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Re: Roy Demeo originally w the Gallos
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[quote=Louiebynochi]Upped for anyone that didn’t see and I don’t think age matters much guys get into the life as young 13. Chris Rosenberg was with Roy since he was 16 years old, Henry hill was w Vario since 13, John Gotti went w Charlie Wagons when he was 16 etc etc The Gallo's made tons of headlines back in the day, tons of photos out there. Show me one with Roy DeMeo and the Gallos. Show me one article with Roy DeMeo picked up with the Gallos. The law likewise was all over them day and night. Show me one surveillance report, one cops mention of DeMeo coming into their club. One book that mentions it. To my knowledge their was only one Roy that ran with the Gallos and that Was Roy "Roy-Roy" Musico.[/quote You have all great point, but they want to enjoy their fantasy of DeMeo and the Gallos. The wiretapped conversation exists, but in their imaginations so it's never going to be posted.
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Re: Roy Demeo originally w the Gallos
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[quote=Louiebynochi]Upped for anyone that didn’t see and I don’t think age matters much guys get into the life as young 13. Chris Rosenberg was with Roy since he was 16 years old, Henry hill was w Vario since 13, John Gotti went w Charlie Wagons when he was 16 etc etc The Gallo's made tons of headlines back in the day, tons of photos out there. Show me one with Roy DeMeo and the Gallos. Show me one article with Roy DeMeo picked up with the Gallos. The law likewise was all over them day and night. Show me one surveillance report, one cops mention of DeMeo coming into their club. One book that mentions it. To my knowledge their was only one Roy that ran with the Gallos and that Was Roy "Roy-Roy" Musico.[/quote You have all great point, but they want to enjoy their fantasy of DeMeo and the Gallos. The wiretapped conversation exists, but in their imaginations so it's never going to be posted. You can purchase the book “wiretap†by James Goode it’s in there as other posters on here mentioned above. And wait I’m confused now we’re relying on articles over the words of Wiseguys actually in the life, cause when I posted about DBs child exploits you were saying articles were bullshit. So Ralph Scopo Sr was living in a fantasy world but Jace the Anonymous Internet poster isn’t??Sorry but I consider Ralph Scopo Sr a much better source than anything you can produce especially since Scopo Sr was close to Roy and Roy grew up next to the Profacis in a heavy Colombo area around Avenue P in Brooklyn.......https://www.amazon.com/Wiretap-Listening-Americas-James-Goode/dp/0671667971
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Re: Roy Demeo originally w the Gallos
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[quote=Louiebynochi]Upped for anyone that didn’t see and I don’t think age matters much guys get into the life as young 13. Chris Rosenberg was with Roy since he was 16 years old, Henry hill was w Vario since 13, John Gotti went w Charlie Wagons when he was 16 etc etc The Gallo's made tons of headlines back in the day, tons of photos out there. Show me one with Roy DeMeo and the Gallos. Show me one article with Roy DeMeo picked up with the Gallos. The law likewise was all over them day and night. Show me one surveillance report, one cops mention of DeMeo coming into their club. One book that mentions it. To my knowledge their was only one Roy that ran with the Gallos and that Was Roy "Roy-Roy" Musico.[/quote You have all great point, but they want to enjoy their fantasy of DeMeo and the Gallos. The wiretapped conversation exists, but in their imaginations so it's never going to be posted. You can purchase the book “wiretap†by James Goode it’s in there as other posters on here mentioned above. And wait I’m confused now we’re relying on articles over the words of Wiseguys actually in the life, cause when I posted about DBs child exploits you were saying articles were bullshit. So Ralph Scopo Sr was living in a fantasy world but Jace the Anonymous Internet poster isn’t??Sorry but I consider Ralph Scopo Sr a much better source than anything you can produce especially since Scopo Sr was close to Roy and Roy grew up next to the Profacis in a heavy Colombo area around Avenue P in Brooklyn.......https://www.amazon.com/Wiretap-Listening-Americas-James-Goode/dp/0671667971Yeah the wiseguys are never wrong. They don't rumour and gossip and never mess things up. Therefore TONY Bananas Caponigro was a member of the Genovese Family. It's has to be true right because Joe Valachi said so and it was in his charts it must be true. He's a made guy not an internet poster. Read it in a book it must be true? I suppose you take Philip Carlo's words as gospel also? He's an author, it was in a book so.it must be true. You can believe Roy was in the Gallo crew if you want, but it doesn't make it true.
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Re: Roy Demeo originally w the Gallos
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Just so you know guys Natale Evola was a Captain in the Lucchese Family, Sally Burns was a in that Family. Forget what you think you know, you're just an internet poster, Joe Valachi said this to be true and he's a made guy. Valachi didn’t even know most of the people on those charts. The govt was just making some of that shit up that’s a a lot different than Ralph Scopo Sr describing a specific instance where Roy Demeo was with his family and then made a deal to get switched to the Gambinos. And the only place that Lucchese shit even originated from was murdered Machine. You can take Murder Machine “word†all you want but I’m gonna take the word of someone that was there in that era that was close to Roy and was part of that family,not to mention Roy Grew up in a heavy Colombo area on Ave P and grew up next door to the Profacis .... to me it comes down to a simple equation who knew Roy and his history personally better Jerry Capeci and Gene Mustain who are writers or Ralph Scopo Sr who actually lived it??Yeah that Lucchese backstory was all made up. Forget that after Roy gets whacked not only do Joey and Anthony transfer to the Lucchese Family, but also Carlo Profeta. Your only source is some hearsay from a wire that Ralph Scoop said happened 20 + years prior. No media articles or photos, no surveillance reports or photos. Nothing. HEY GUYS ROY DEMEO WAS A GALLO CREW MEMBER. THE DAY THEY SAVED THE PUERTO RICAN KIDS FROM THE FIRE ROY WOULD HAVE BEEN THERE BUT HE HAD JUST WENT TO CONEY ISLAND TO GET A NATHANS HOT DOG!!!
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Re: Roy Demeo originally w the Gallos
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Just so you know guys Natale Evola was a Captain in the Lucchese Family, Sally Burns was a in that Family. Forget what you think you know, you're just an internet poster, Joe Valachi said this to be true and he's a made guy. Valachi didn’t even know most of the people on those charts. The govt was just making some of that shit up that’s a a lot different than Ralph Scopo Sr describing a specific instance where Roy Demeo was with his family and then made a deal to get switched to the Gambinos. And the only place that Lucchese shit even originated from was murdered Machine. You can take Murder Machine “word†all you want but I’m gonna take the word of someone that was there in that era that was close to Roy and was part of that family,not to mention Roy Grew up in a heavy Colombo area on Ave P and grew up next door to the Profacis .... to me it comes down to a simple equation who knew Roy and his history personally better Jerry Capeci and Gene Mustain who are writers or Ralph Scopo Sr who actually lived it??Yeah that Lucchese backstory was all made up. Forget that after Roy gets whacked not only do Joey and Anthony transfer to the Lucchese Family, but also Carlo Profeta. Your only source is some hearsay from a wire that Ralph Scoop said happened 20 + years prior. No media articles or photos, no surveillance reports or photos. Nothing. HEY GUYS ROY DEMEO WAS A GALLO CREW MEMBER. THE DAY THEY SAVED THE PUERTO RICAN KIDS FROM THE FIRE ROY WOULD HAVE BEEN THERE BUT HE HAD JUST WENT TO CONEY ISLAND TO GET A NATHANS HOT DOG!!! Idk what The Testa brothers and Carlo Profeta becoming friendly in the late 70s and early 80s w the Luccheses in CANARSIE which is where they grew up has to do with Roy Demeo growing up in GRAVESEND ON AVE P 20 years prior and the family he started with which was also his childhood friends and RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO HIM. But like I said YOUR WAY MORE CREDIBLE THAN Ralph Scopo Sr who was actually there and lived it.....So basically what your saying IS RALPH SCOPO SR IS IMAGINING THAT PART OF HIS LIFE where HE WAS CLOSE TO ROY DEMEO(WAY CLOSER THAN JERRY CAPECI AND GENE MUSTAIN) and KNEW HIM SINCE HE WAS YOUNG and described how Roy was with them and thought he would be murdered cause he was w the Gallos and was transferred to the Gambinos You do know that Canarsie and Gravesend Ave P are 2 diff areas right?And where he grew up is right on the way to Coney Island.....
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Re: Roy Demeo originally w the Gallos
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Just so you know guys Natale Evola was a Captain in the Lucchese Family, Sally Burns was a in that Family. Forget what you think you know, you're just an internet poster, Joe Valachi said this to be true and he's a made guy. LOL...... it's a hopeless endeavor Colonel
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Re: Roy Demeo originally w the Gallos
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Just so you know guys Natale Evola was a Captain in the Lucchese Family, Sally Burns was a in that Family. Forget what you think you know, you're just an internet poster, Joe Valachi said this to be true and he's a made guy. LOL...... it's a hopeless endeavor Colonel One question Ralph Scopo Sr, who ran the Colombo familys construction rackets as President of the Concrete Workers District Council, who was in the life for decades and knew Roy Demeo personally is not a better authority on Roy Demeos history with his own fucking family than what one book said...Ralph Scopo Sr or Capeci and Mustain who has more personal experience in the life?????????
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Re: Roy Demeo originally w the Gallos
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Upped for anyone that didn’t see and I don’t think age matters much guys get into the life as young 13. Chris Rosenberg was with Roy since he was 16 years old, Henry hill was w Vario since 13, John Gotti went w Charlie Wagons when he was 16 etc etc The Gallo's made tons of headlines back in the day, tons of photos out there. Show me one with Roy DeMeo and the Gallos. Show me one article with Roy DeMeo picked up with the Gallos. The law likewise was all over them day and night. Show me one surveillance report, one cops mention of DeMeo coming into their club. One book that mentions it. To my knowledge their was only one Roy that ran with the Gallos and that Was Roy "Roy-Roy" Musico. I thought the same thing Reb...
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