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Re: Who was the nicest? The classiest mafioso?
[Re: Dwalin2011]
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03/20/21 12:35 PM
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By many accounts Jimmy Blue Eyes was a true gentleman gangster. Tony Accardo also. Accardo authorized way too many murders to fit the bill in this case imo . . Absolutely
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Re: Who was the nicest? The classiest mafioso?
[Re: Louiebynochi]
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03/20/21 01:43 PM
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I have no inside knowledge of what he was like in day to day life but didn't Bill Cutolo do some serious charity work? Yes. Remember guys, there is typically 'good and bad' in everybody. Regardless of who they are, where they come from, and what the do for a living. Some are complete creeps with no good in their souls at all. Some may be technically 'bad guys,' but do have a few redeeming qualities. And some may be very nice and decent fellas, despite the fact that they fall into the 'racketeer' category. Just like in regular life, racket guys run the gamut from nice guys, to complete degenerates. Hate to tell you fa***t but we are judged by the worse things we do in life, not the fact someone does good and bad Finally, when it came time to hand down the sentence, Zagel told Lombardo he showed “some balance, some judgment and, I think, based on the evidence before me, some ability to charm people.â€
“But I find that that’s really only the surface,†Zagel said. “In the end, we are judged by our actions, not about our wit or our smiles.â€
“In cases like these, the things that matter most are the worst things we do,†Zagel said. “And the worst things you have done are terrible.â€You sound like the type of guy who never gets invited to parties
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Re: Who was the nicest? The classiest mafioso?
[Re: Dwalin2011]
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03/23/21 04:06 AM
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Frank Tieri seems to have fit the description of a classy man and a gentleman. He was friends with people from all walks of life, gave a lot to charities and also owned many honest businesses without having any hint of scandal in those businesses. On top of that he was convicted on RICO and instead of cutting a deal by giving up others he went to prison where he knew he would die without a complaint. Tieri never served 1 day, he was already dying by the time he was convicted. And it wasn't exactly "gentlemanly" on his part to have Angelo Bruno whacked and then blame it all on Caponigro and other accomplices. Dwalin, that's the life Bruno, signed up for. Bruno- had many of men whacked. The way that these guys look at it is, they are just soliders and if they kill it's part of war. Just the way an American soldier would kill a German in WW-2. I am not saying I think it's right however, that's the mindset. When Gravano, flipped at his first conversation he said " I want to switch Governments, meaning he looked at LCN, as his Government. Good soldiers in LCN, are rewarded by LCN, the same way god American soldiers are awarded by their government. Alot of people apply logic and common sense to the equation, you will never understand LCN if you try to evaluate from that angle. The Mafia is Sicily at its origins was a Govt inside a Govt. Thats what LCN, was set up to be.
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Re: Who was the nicest? The classiest mafioso?
[Re: BensonHURST]
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Frank Tieri seems to have fit the description of a classy man and a gentleman. He was friends with people from all walks of life, gave a lot to charities and also owned many honest businesses without having any hint of scandal in those businesses. On top of that he was convicted on RICO and instead of cutting a deal by giving up others he went to prison where he knew he would die without a complaint. Tieri never served 1 day, he was already dying by the time he was convicted. And it wasn't exactly "gentlemanly" on his part to have Angelo Bruno whacked and then blame it all on Caponigro and other accomplices. Dwalin, that's the life Bruno, signed up for. Bruno- had many of men whacked. The way that these guys look at it is, they are just soliders and if they kill it's part of war. Just the way an American soldier would kill a German in WW-2. I am not saying I think it's right however, that's the mindset. When Gravano, flipped at his first conversation he said " I want to switch Governments, meaning he looked at LCN, as his Government. Good soldiers in LCN, are rewarded by LCN, the same way god American soldiers are awarded by their government. Alot of people apply logic and common sense to the equation, you will never understand LCN if you try to evaluate from that angle. The Mafia is Sicily at its origins was a Govt inside a Govt. Thats what LCN, was set up to be. I understand what you are saying; what I meant is just that I got the impression that there is some tendency to idealize some gangsters, and I wanted to express my disagreement. However, if we don't look at them by standards of law-abiding citizens, but as a separate mindset, then I agree that there are some gangsters that were better than others, there are differences between individuals like in any other people category.
Willie Marfeo to Henry Tameleo:
1) "You people want a loaf of bread and you throw the crumbs back. Well, fuck you. I ain't closing down."
2) "Get out of here, old man. Go tell Raymond to go shit in his hat. We're not giving you anything."
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Re: Who was the nicest? The classiest mafioso?
[Re: BensonHURST]
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03/23/21 04:32 PM
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Frank Tieri seems to have fit the description of a classy man and a gentleman. He was friends with people from all walks of life, gave a lot to charities and also owned many honest businesses without having any hint of scandal in those businesses. On top of that he was convicted on RICO and instead of cutting a deal by giving up others he went to prison where he knew he would die without a complaint. Tieri never served 1 day, he was already dying by the time he was convicted. And it wasn't exactly "gentlemanly" on his part to have Angelo Bruno whacked and then blame it all on Caponigro and other accomplices. Dwalin, that's the life Bruno, signed up for. Bruno- had many of men whacked. The way that these guys look at it is, they are just soliders and if they kill it's part of war. Just the way an American soldier would kill a German in WW-2. I am not saying I think it's right however, that's the mindset. When Gravano, flipped at his first conversation he said " I want to switch Governments, meaning he looked at LCN, as his Government. Good soldiers in LCN, are rewarded by LCN, the same way god American soldiers are awarded by their government. Alot of people apply logic and common sense to the equation, you will never understand LCN if you try to evaluate from that angle. The Mafia is Sicily at its origins was a Govt inside a Govt. Thats what LCN, was set up to be. 100% bro. It was a parallel government for people involved in shady business. I try to explain that to people but it’s hard. Guys fully committed to the life were expected to follow orders. A lot of old timers were in WWII or Korea and it trained them for the mindset. And even if you were just an otherwise legit guy doing something on the side to make a few extra bucks they get a piece. In return you get someone to speak for you if you have a problem. Like a Congressman basically. Think of it like paying your taxes. But the irs wouldn’t kick your teeth in if you under report your income.
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