I know there is a current thread up about who was the biggest drunk? Or who was the biggest piece of shit, relating to mob guys.

I thought it would be interesting to discuss the 'flip side of that same coin'

In your opinions, who was the nicest, classiest, most level-headed and 'gentlemanly' of the Cosa Nostra set?

Both past, and present.

Frank Costello

I would choose Carlo Caputo: never killed anyone, just didn't pay his taxes.

Also, Harry Riccobene, because he is too similar to Santa Claus with that beard he grew up in prison (ok, I am joking, but nevertheless the similarity is striking, and the symbolic Christmas presents he sent to Angelo Bruno in exchange for independence give credit to the theory he is/was Santa )

Present day, maybe not the classiest (I don’t know I only briefly met him once) but I have never heard anyone ever utter a bad word about Joe Ligambi.

Robert Di Bernardo openly distributed magazines featuring photos of little boys being raped, sanctioned by the Gambino crime family. Child pornography openly sold in LCN owned porno shops on Times Square as recently as the 1980s.

Gambino and Genovese families all made money on child pornography, child prostitution and child exploitation.

That's without getting into the several high profile murders of children, women, civilians and cops in the 80s and 90s alone.

And this joker is talking about who the nicest, classiest mobster is with a straight face.

How come nobody's replied to this dumbass yet? Please show us proof of him openly distributing such magazines? And show proof of their extensive involvement in the murder of children, women (like what makes them so much more important than men 🙄), civilians, and cops?

The ONLY joker here is you, you 'fool' Lol......I see you are starting with your unsolicited attacks on me and other posters here again. What is your deal? What happened? you off your medications again? If you don't like the topic, DO NOT PARTICIPATE AS TURNBULL AND OTHERS HAVE SAID!

Thank you DD. He CANNOT show proof. Because none exists. DeBe was huge in porn. All types. But NOT 'child' porn (I know that for a fact. I knew the guy). Not 'rape' type porn either.

In actuality he produced and sold the types of porn (some very wild like golden showers, gang bangs, etc) That is SOOOO common today on any given free internet porn site that its almost comical that these fellas got pinched for it years back.

But it was a different era, and thats what it was.

DeBe was actually not a bad guy, all in all. Mellow. not a tough guy. Just a great earner!

It’s in all of his fbi files,reported by tons of informants and he was indicted for it along with teddy rothestein and Paul Castellano was an indicted coconsiprator, in the MI Porn case.....
Case was backed up by wiretaps and they’re own voices along a Roy Demeo who was also pushing it...
Here’s one of the guys that was pimped out in the sex shops when he was a kid and later joined the warlock motorcycle gang...

https://youtu.be/8-QN0uPOsZQ

Another decent guy was James 'Jimmy Bates' Battaglia. Goodfella with the Westside.

He was 95% bookmaker. thats all. He just happened to get straightened out because he came from the neighborhood and grew up with a lot of friends who became members. So they gave him a button too.

By many accounts Jimmy Blue Eyes was a true gentleman gangster. Tony Accardo also.

Tons of informants? Yeah right. If Paul Castellano was indicted as a co-conspirator in a child porn case we would've heard about it by now, over and over. So Roy DeMeo was caught on tape pushing it? Show us.

Accardo authorized way too many murders to fit the bill in this case imo.

It definitly wasnt everyones hero john gotti mean nasty smug prick that should have has his throat slashed

The delusion of some posters on this thread is scary. Calling child porn peddlers and cop killers good guys.

De Meo was a made guy in the Gambino family and peddled bestiality and child porn. Robert Di Bernardo made money hand over fist producing child porn for the Gambino family. The Genovese family profited off the exploitation of minors. Look up Matty The Horse Ianniello.

It doesn't matter if you are a "lowly bookmaker". If you work for an organization that makes money off the exploitation of the most vulnerable people in society, you are a scumbag.

Another complete lie, backed up by a youtube video--really? No FBI file has it, unless you or Moe were the sources they used. .

Gotti was liked by everyone who met him, and I am talking people outside of the mob. No one here met him. Same for Joe Merlino. Costello was a gentleman, Luciano seems to have been very popular, he even had writers as friends, including the one who wrote that questionable book about him after he died.

Jackie Nose D'Amico seems to be well liked, also seems classy.

I heard that about Jimmy Blue Eyes also

That I agree with. He was a fucking blowhard who was a vicious, self centered prick who hurt a lot of guys. It was all about his ego.

Here’s the fbi files. Only thousands of pages..

https://archive.org/details/RobertDibernardo/Robert%20Dibernardo%2001

https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/star-distributors-ltd-46454/


And the indictment
https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/1526052/united-states-v-dibernardo/

Even in 1972 it was widely known that DiBernardo was "a prominent dealer in pornography" according to The Wall Street Journal article. More disturbingly, the degenerate mobster was the nation's largest distributor of kiddie porn. According to FBI documents DiBernardo ultimately became a top lieutenant to family boss Paul Castellano, and with capo Ettore Zappi from South Florida ran the crime family's porn empire. Zappi sponsored DiBernardo into the Gambino family. In 1986 federal postal inspectors discovered cartons of magazines depicting underage boys "engaged in sexually explicit conduct" at smut shops in Times Square and Greenwich Village which allegedly were distributed by DiBernardo, and during a subsequent March 1986 raid on DiBernardo's office seized alleged "child pornography and financial records." As "a result of the Postal Inspectors seizures [a federal prosecutor] is attempting to indict DiBernardo on child pornography violations" according to an FBI memo dated May 20, 1986. A July 28, 1981 FBI document stated DiBernardo was "a well known pornography distributor also dealing in child pornography." Indeed, the FBI's New York field office had been monitoring DiBernardo's role in the smut trade since 1968 when he was arrested by the NYPD on his first obscenity charge for distributing a porno mag entitled Young Stuff.

Its made up crap that no one believes, if there was a hint of truth to it they would have had him in prison instead of on the streets.

Another complete lie, backed up by a youtube video--really? No FBI file has it, unless you or Moe were the sources they used. .
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Here’s the fbi files. Only thousands of pages..

https://archive.org/details/RobertDibernardo/Robert%20Dibernardo%2001

https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/star-distributors-ltd-46454/


And the indictment
https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/1526052/united-states-v-dibernardo/[/quote]


Its made up crap that no one believes, if there was a hint of truth to it they would have had him in prison instead of on the streets. [/quote]

His conviction for it in 1981, again Paul Castellano was an unindicted co conspirator on the case
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/0...s-Miporn-investigation-of/7758361252800/

Even in 1972 it was widely known that DiBernardo was "a prominent dealer in pornography" according to The Wall Street Journal article. More disturbingly, the degenerate mobster was the nation's largest distributor of kiddie porn. According to FBI documents DiBernardo ultimately became a top lieutenant to family boss Paul Castellano, and with capo Ettore Zappi from South Florida ran the crime family's porn empire. Zappi sponsored DiBernardo into the Gambino family. In 1986 federal postal inspectors discovered cartons of magazines depicting underage boys "engaged in sexually explicit conduct" at smut shops in Times Square and Greenwich Village which allegedly were distributed by DiBernardo, and during a subsequent March 1986 raid on DiBernardo's office seized alleged "child pornography and financial records." As "a result of the Postal Inspectors seizures [a federal prosecutor] is attempting to indict DiBernardo on child pornography violations" according to an FBI memo dated May 20, 1986. A July 28, 1981 FBI document stated DiBernardo was "a well known pornography distributor also dealing in child pornography." Indeed, the FBI's New York field office had been monitoring DiBernardo's role in the smut trade since 1968 when he was arrested by the NYPD on his first obscenity charge for distributing a porno mag entitled Young Stuff.

This fella on here (I won't even bother naming him anymore because he's completely delusional, and must have been really abused somewhere along the line for him to have such a skewed view of the world), just throws out random, wild accusations that have no real value, and are not based in any real fact or common sense.

He's a rabble rouser. Or tries to be anyway.

Ianniello, DiBernardo, Brocchini, etc., etc., never dealt in that type of stuff (I bet my bottom dollar on it). Were there guys who did? certainly!.

Possibly a DeMeo, or a few other independents.

Believe it or not, most of these fellas did have a measure of scruples (hard as that may be for a few on here to believe). They had wives, children, moms and dads.

Porno is one thing. Raunchy porno was even a 'thing'......but that real DG stuff was mostly 'out of bounds' for most of these guys.

The guy who makes these stupid, ridiculous allegations, (in reality), never met a REAL wiseguy in his entire life. Lol.... Truth be told, he wouldn't know a wiseguy if the guy walked up to him and bit him in the ass! Yet, he talks shit constantly, like he really is in the know.

Prostitution, Pornography, Gay-bars, Titty and full-nude juice bars, etc, etc. The did ALL of that! But 'child pornography'?? thats a WHOLE different ballgame for the vast majority of wiseguys. NO self-respecting goodfella is gonna fuck around with that sort of trash.

And THIS I know 'first hand'..... it takes a real low-life to deal in that. And despite what this particular poster says (and would want us to believe), its really not that way

Your just upset cause you think people won’t click on your website and you’ll lose the revenue generated by clicks and your click through rate, if they know the truth. He was a well known dealer in it it’s been documented in over in 25 years of files and he was convicted for it.. you obviously don’t know wiseguys becuase if you did you wouldn’t be spouting bullshit and on top of the 25 years of files and his conviction I post of video of someone who was there while the fbi and postal service was raiding these places, who has documentable first hand knowledgeable unlike you. Who was one of the victims of Dibenardo and Paul Castellano....

Ianniello was one I had forgotten, he was also a WW2 hero, as was Benny "Eggs "Mangano. I think both were Genovese members.

Let's just keep posting wiseguys who we believe to be honorable just to piss Moe and Louie off.

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Lol, I wasn't even talking about you Louie.

Yep You're absolutely correct Jace. Thats a great point you bring out. And there are MANY other mafiosi (many), who also proudly served their country, and saw tremendous bloody combat in WWII, the Korean War, etc.

Defending all of us, and our American way of life, our Constitution, etc., yet, there are a few posters on here who try and 'embarrass' them if you will, try their best to reduce them. Not to racketeers. which of course they were. And we're proud of it. But to an insulting level that many of them DO NOT deserve.

The funniest part of it all, is that many of the 'men's names' who these posters put in their mouths, had more guts and honor in their little pinky finger, than these posters have in their entire bodies. (and they know it too, that what REALLY breaks their asses). Hahahahaha!

They had a set of balls like elephants, and became 'highly decorated war heros'..... and these posters have balls the size of pistachios. LOL

Not a Mafia member, but Monk Eastman was said to have been a WW1 hero.