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Re: Who was the nicest? The classiest mafioso?
[Re: DillyDolly]
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03/16/21 11:37 PM
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Let's just keep posting wiseguys who we believe to be honorable just to piss Moe and Louie off. hahahaha! I got another for ya DD. Colombo soldier/capo/acting boss Joseph (Little Joey) Brancato, of Greenpoint, Brooklyn. He was a renowned hero in WWII. He was awarded nearly every medal they can award a guy. In fact, he lost his leg in the war while saving his captain and the entire platoon from the Germans. The way I heard the story the Germans had his platoon pinned down, many American GI's had been slaughtered already, and they were getting picked off little by little. Although it was a suicide mission, Little Joey went out and navigated through gunfire and was able to knock out a German machine-gun nest. He supposedly single-handedly manned the nest afterwards and turned the guns on the other germans, whacking them all out. But he lost one of his legs while doing it from the multiple gunshots he had sustained. He went the rest of his life like that. When he stood before a Judge on a shylock case in Nassau County years later, the judge felt compelled to put him on probation because of his war record. Even the prosecutor didn't have the balls to go against that.
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Re: Who was the nicest? The classiest mafioso?
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Re: Who was the nicest? The classiest mafioso?
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I have older family members that were very close to Pete DeFeo, and everything they say leads me to think he was a nice guy. I’d imagine if I was some poor business owner he was moving in on I wouldn’t necessarily love it. One story involved a relative of my family getting threats from some mob guys regarding a business they had on west side of manhattan. Pete was happy to help this guy out with the situation. But after that, he was expected to see Pete every now and then with an envelope.
I saw Butch DeFeo just died upstate a couple days ago
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Re: Who was the nicest? The classiest mafioso?
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03/17/21 11:07 PM
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I love the way they were stone cold and had that killer look in their eyes. They're not supposed to look like cuddly bears. I'm actually practicing that look. They were so cool and badass. The thing is that when you know you just met,or are talking to, or even it is a friend someone that you knew, when you know they actually did the deed. Actually killed, you looked at them a little differently than the average every day schmo that you would meet and/or talk to.
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Re: Who was the nicest? The classiest mafioso?
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03/17/21 11:17 PM
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A lot of the old timers were more aloof thats all. A little bit they couldn't speak the language. Also, if they didn't know you, thats when many wouldn't give you the time of day. But if you were a neighborhood guy most were decent.
And then of course there were the guys who didn't exactly have what we'd call 'stellar' personalities to begin with. Then there were the hard-ons of course, lol. But there were others who were very friendly.
Its not all that different than regular type folks. everyone has their own way. Yes I agree thats what I was referring to when I met those two even though they were captains and had power they were complete gentlemen. They didn't have that CHIP. Or as you put it HARD ONs The biggest HARD ON was Charlie Moose One day when we were teenagers Charlie got NASTY with one of Rudy Farone's nephews The nephew spoke to his uncle and Charlie changed his tune the next week. Why didn't you tell me who your uncle was?? Never bothered him or us when we were with him again.
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Re: Who was the nicest? The classiest mafioso?
[Re: BensonHURST]
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03/18/21 11:25 AM
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A lot of the old timers were more aloof thats all. A little bit they couldn't speak the language. Also, if they didn't know you, thats when many wouldn't give you the time of day. But if you were a neighborhood guy most were decent.
And then of course there were the guys who didn't exactly have what we'd call 'stellar' personalities to begin with. Then there were the hard-ons of course, lol. But there were others who were very friendly.
Its not all that different than regular type folks. everyone has their own way. Yes I agree thats what I was referring to when I met those two even though they were captains and had power they were complete gentlemen. They didn't have that CHIP. Or as you put it HARD ONs The biggest HARD ON was Charlie Moose One day when we were teenagers Charlie got NASTY with one of Rudy Farone's nephews The nephew spoke to his uncle and Charlie changed his tune the next week. Why didn't you tell me who your uncle was?? Never bothered him or us when we were with him again. -- Charlie Moose was known to be a hardheaded, cantankerous nasty fuck sometimes. I knew him also. Not that I ever had anything but nice conversation with him, but I do know that many other guys did have conflicts with him. Even guys around him. And he wasn't the most liked guy in that crew that's for sure!
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Re: Who was the nicest? The classiest mafioso?
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03/18/21 09:29 PM
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By many accounts Jimmy Blue Eyes was a true gentleman gangster. Tony Accardo also. Accardo authorized way too many murders to fit the bill in this case imo. Joey Aiuppa and all those Outfit guys were brutal gangsters, Tony Accardo was not so bad lol.
"The king is dead, long live the king!"
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Re: Who was the nicest? The classiest mafioso?
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03/18/21 09:43 PM
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A lot of the old timers were more aloof thats all. A little bit they couldn't speak the language. Also, if they didn't know you, thats when many wouldn't give you the time of day. But if you were a neighborhood guy most were decent.
And then of course there were the guys who didn't exactly have what we'd call 'stellar' personalities to begin with. Then there were the hard-ons of course, lol. But there were others who were very friendly.
Its not all that different than regular type folks. everyone has their own way. Yes I agree thats what I was referring to when I met those two even though they were captains and had power they were complete gentlemen. They didn't have that CHIP. Or as you put it HARD ONs The biggest HARD ON was Charlie Moose One day when we were teenagers Charlie got NASTY with one of Rudy Farone's nephews The nephew spoke to his uncle and Charlie changed his tune the next week. Why didn't you tell me who your uncle was?? Never bothered him or us when we were with him again. -- Charlie Moose was known to be a hardheaded, cantankerous nasty fuck sometimes. I knew him also. Not that I ever had anything but nice conversation with him, but I do know that many other guys did have conflicts with him. Even guys around him. And he wasn't the most liked guy in that crew that's for sure! Did you know Richie Centra from the club on NewUtrecht Ave and 71th Street?
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Re: Who was the nicest? The classiest mafioso?
[Re: Goldy]
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03/18/21 10:28 PM
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I've heard this "child porn" thing over and over. Was there or has there ever been this huge market for child porn? I hear about scumbags getting busted for possession of child porn on their laptops and whatnot and it's a big deal because of how rare it is, but Moe is saying that DiBi actually had magazines full of child porn printed up that they just sold in shops? That seems highly, HIGHLY doubtful to me. Especially being able to generate big time $$$ from something like that. Or beastiality? Really? I don't put it past them to have tried to make money off it if that's the case, I just don't see how there'd be a market for that sort of thing in the 1970's. Today? Maybe. More sick fucks out there now, wouldn't surprise me. [b] In 1986 federal postal inspectors discovered cartons of magazines depicting underage boys "engaged in sexually explicit conduct" at smut shops in Times Square and Greenwich Village which allegedly were distributed by DiBernardo, and during a subsequent March 1986 raid on DiBernardo's office seized alleged "child pornography and financial records." As "a result of the Postal Inspectors seizures [a federal prosecutor] is attempting to indict DiBernardo on child pornography violations" according to an FBI memo dated May 20, 1986. A July 28, 1981 FBI document stated DiBernardo was "a well known pornography distributor also dealing in child pornography." Indeed, the FBI's New York field office had been monitoring DiBernardo's role in the smut trade since 1968 when he was arrested by the NYPD on his first obscenity charge for distributing a porno mag entitled Young Stuff.There’s no debate DB was the country’s largest child pornographer
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Re: Who was the nicest? The classiest mafioso?
[Re: BensonHURST]
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03/18/21 10:31 PM
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A lot of the old timers were more aloof thats all. A little bit they couldn't speak the language. Also, if they didn't know you, thats when many wouldn't give you the time of day. But if you were a neighborhood guy most were decent.
And then of course there were the guys who didn't exactly have what we'd call 'stellar' personalities to begin with. Then there were the hard-ons of course, lol. But there were others who were very friendly.
Its not all that different than regular type folks. everyone has their own way. Yes I agree thats what I was referring to when I met those two even though they were captains and had power they were complete gentlemen. They didn't have that CHIP. Or as you put it HARD ONs The biggest HARD ON was Charlie Moose One day when we were teenagers Charlie got NASTY with one of Rudy Farone's nephews The nephew spoke to his uncle and Charlie changed his tune the next week. Why didn't you tell me who your uncle was?? Never bothered him or us when we were with him again. -- Charlie Moose was known to be a hardheaded, cantankerous nasty fuck sometimes. I knew him also. Not that I ever had anything but nice conversation with him, but I do know that many other guys did have conflicts with him. Even guys around him. And he wasn't the most liked guy in that crew that's for sure! Did you know Richie Centra from the club on NewUtrecht Ave and 71th Street? -- No, I did not know Richie Centra.
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Re: Who was the nicest? The classiest mafioso?
[Re: Louiebynochi]
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03/18/21 10:39 PM
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I've heard this "child porn" thing over and over. Was there or has there ever been this huge market for child porn? I hear about scumbags getting busted for possession of child porn on their laptops and whatnot and it's a big deal because of how rare it is, but Moe is saying that DiBi actually had magazines full of child porn printed up that they just sold in shops? That seems highly, HIGHLY doubtful to me. Especially being able to generate big time $$$ from something like that. Or beastiality? Really? I don't put it past them to have tried to make money off it if that's the case, I just don't see how there'd be a market for that sort of thing in the 1970's. Today? Maybe. More sick fucks out there now, wouldn't surprise me. [b] In 1986 federal postal inspectors discovered cartons of magazines depicting underage boys "engaged in sexually explicit conduct" at smut shops in Times Square and Greenwich Village which allegedly were distributed by DiBernardo, and during a subsequent March 1986 raid on DiBernardo's office seized alleged "child pornography and financial records." As "a result of the Postal Inspectors seizures [a federal prosecutor] is attempting to indict DiBernardo on child pornography violations" according to an FBI memo dated May 20, 1986. A July 28, 1981 FBI document stated DiBernardo was "a well known pornography distributor also dealing in child pornography." Indeed, the FBI's New York field office had been monitoring DiBernardo's role in the smut trade since 1968 when he was arrested by the NYPD on his first obscenity charge for distributing a porno mag entitled Young Stuff.There’s no debate DB was the country’s largest child pornographer Di Bernardo was NOT, nor was he ever, charged with moving 'kiddie porn.' thats a total lie. And a magazine named 'young stuff' means nothing. It could be pics of young looking girls that are still of legal age. Its a marketing ploy. If the FEDS ever caught any wiseguy pushing kiddie porn. They would have thrown the book at them. 10-20 years in the lockup. THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN! These guys usually pled out with fines, or 1 year in the can at best. The biggest figures in the MIPORN investigation I don't even think got more than 5 years, if even that. And they served even less. THATS NEVER THE CASE WITH KIDDIE PORN! Especially when goodfellas and the mafia are charged. What you're saying? It's just NOT reality!
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Re: Who was the nicest? The classiest mafioso?
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03/19/21 01:24 AM
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https://archive.org/details/RobertDibernardo/Robert%20Dibernardo%2001Thousands of pages of FBI Files that document his involvement in Child Porn https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/star-distributors-ltd-46454/https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/0...s-Miporn-investigation-of/7758361252800/https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/1526052/united-states-v-dibernardo/His indictment and conviction for ithttps://www.nytimes.com/1986/06/14/...icer-reported-missing-for-past-week.html
Robert DiBernardo, a reputed captain in the Gambino crime family and a key target of a Federal investigation into child pornography, is missing, authorities said yesterday.
-direct from The NY Times article https://youtu.be/8-QN0uPOsZQVideo of Bobby who was sex trafficked as a child by Dibenardo AND Paul Castellano and was theyre when the postal inspectors were raiding the offices for child sex trafficking and Child Pornography He describes being sent on “dates†with men in Atlantic City and Philadelphia and New York. I’ll quote him “DB,Paul Castellano and Theo Rothstein made millions off the trafficking of childrenâ€He councils kids that were raped and abused and sex trafficked like him, he’s not making it up especially since DB was indicted and convicted for it along w Theo Rothstein and Paul Castellano was an Unindicted CoConspirator The attorney generals commission on pornography https://books.google.com/books?id=h...EwCXoECAwQAg#v=onepage&q&f=false“MI Porn resulted in many indictments for transportation of obscene materials and revealed other criminal acts resulting in indictments and forfeitures for including racketeering,possession and transfer of machine guns,silencers, child pornography, interstate violation of stolen goods†“ NY MAFIA†the way you defend a scum of the earth child trafficker really makes me think that you might have been one of theyre customers and no I’m not kidding.
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Re: Who was the nicest? The classiest mafioso?
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03/19/21 02:00 PM
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Robert Di Bernardo openly distributed magazines featuring photos of little boys being raped, sanctioned by the Gambino crime family. Child pornography openly sold in LCN owned porno shops on Times Square as recently as the 1980s.
Gambino and Genovese families all made money on child pornography, child prostitution and child exploitation.
That's without getting into the several high profile murders of children, women, civilians and cops in the 80s and 90s alone.
And this joker is talking about who the nicest, classiest mobster is with a straight face. This and what about the Nun the Colombo family blew away during a hit in the 1980s, the Perianos were also involved in child porn as well as beastiality and snuff films that depicted children https://www.villagevoice.com/1999/02/09/the-wiseguy-and-the-nun/In FBI debriefings, Miciotta provided a behind-the-scenes account of a Mafia hit that went wrong, resulting in the death of Veronica Zuraw, a 53-year-old Brooklyn woman who was struck down in her Gravesend home one night as she stored the laundry. At the time of her death, Zuraw served as a social worker with the Italian Board of Guardians. Before marrying her husband, Louis, in 1974, Zuraw, then known as Sr. Mary Adelaide, worked for the Brooklyn Catholic Diocese, for which she ran a Bensonhurst storefront that provided assistance to recent Italian immigrants. According to newspaper accounts, Zuraw was hit in the head by stray buckshot intended for a pair of Colombo crime family figures, Joseph Peraino Sr. and his son, Joseph Jr. The Perainos were running from at least two gunmen when they ran up the stairs to the modest two-family home at 431 Lake Street. The Perainos did not know the home’s inhabitants, police said, they were just desperately seeking shelter from the pursuing hit team. The father and son were heading for the home’s concrete patio when they were both cut down by a series of shotgun blasts. The younger Peraino was killed, while his father was slightly injured. But one wayward blast found an unintended victim. Veronica and Louis Zuraw had purchased the Lake Street property only 10 weeks before the shooting and had recently moved into the second-floor space. They had previously lived in a Bensonhurst apartment, and this was their first house. On the night of the shooting, Louis Zuraw was watching TV. He would later recall hearing what sounded like fireworks exploding in the street. Veronica was nearby folding laundry and placing it in a closet when, at about 8 p.m., she was struck in the head by a fusillade of shotgun pellets. One of the gunman’s shots missed the Perainos and ripped through the front door at 431 Lake Street, eventually striking Veronica Zuraw. She died on the spot.
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Re: Who was the nicest? The classiest mafioso?
[Re: Little_Frankie]
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03/19/21 03:28 PM
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I have no inside knowledge of what he was like in day to day life but didn't Bill Cutolo do some serious charity work? Yes. Remember guys, there is typically 'good and bad' in everybody. Regardless of who they are, where they come from, and what the do for a living. Some are complete creeps with no good in their souls at all. Some may be technically 'bad guys,' but do have a few redeeming qualities. And some may be very nice and decent fellas, despite the fact that they fall into the 'racketeer' category. Just like in regular life, racket guys run the gamut from nice guys, to complete degenerates.
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Re: Who was the nicest? The classiest mafioso?
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03/19/21 05:01 PM
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I have no inside knowledge of what he was like in day to day life but didn't Bill Cutolo do some serious charity work? Yes. Remember guys, there is typically 'good and bad' in everybody. Regardless of who they are, where they come from, and what the do for a living. Some are complete creeps with no good in their souls at all. Some may be technically 'bad guys,' but do have a few redeeming qualities. And some may be very nice and decent fellas, despite the fact that they fall into the 'racketeer' category. Just like in regular life, racket guys run the gamut from nice guys, to complete degenerates. Hate to tell you fa***t but we are judged by the worse things we do in life, not the fact someone does good and bad Finally, when it came time to hand down the sentence, Zagel told Lombardo he showed “some balance, some judgment and, I think, based on the evidence before me, some ability to charm people.â€
“But I find that that’s really only the surface,†Zagel said. “In the end, we are judged by our actions, not about our wit or our smiles.â€
“In cases like these, the things that matter most are the worst things we do,†Zagel said. “And the worst things you have done are terrible.â€
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