Originally Posted by NYMafia
Originally Posted by ColonelReb
Originally Posted by NYMafia
Originally Posted by DillyDolly
Could it be that even if the Giancana and Roselli hits were government hits, they were still killed by fellow mobsters? I believe Giancana was killed because bosses like Accardo felt like he was too high-profile. I can imagine he brought a lot of grief. And wasn't Colombo's shooter gunned down by a Colombo soldier/associate? How do you explain that one if the government whacked Colombo and Colombo's shooter?


Thats conjecture and never been proven that Chubby Rossillo shot Jerome Johnson

Maybe it is not proven Phil Rossillo shot Johnson but it's pretty much a given from what I have read. Not only is it in the Scarpa files but it's in other documents about wiseguys commenting on how that were awed about Chubby shooting this guy with the cops right there. It's primarily why Chubby got his button


Yes I do agree with you that it probably was Chubby who shot Johnson. He was a very close friend of Joe's son Anthony, and he was right there when it happened.

But even if it was Chubby, we have to remember that Rossillo was a Colombo associate who was loyal to the Family. He wouldn't have been involved in any "government plot." For that matter, neither would have any other mob guys. The government wouldn't have needed to bring them into anything, if in fact they chose to do it. The had the capabilities on their own. So for me at least, Chubby shooting Johnson doesn't change a thing. Thats what he was supposed to do if he's carrying a gun and you see some guy shoot your boss. So what he did by capping Johnson doesn't negate the government plot theory at all.

Also, as Cabrini said, I too don't believe it was the entire U.S. government, or even the entire FBI for that matter. These type of plots are usually carried out by small rogue elements, or "factions" if you will. Maybe, probably, under direct orders from the hierarchy such as Hoover himself, of another top official.

Chubby definitely wasn't working with the government. He was a bodyguard. Probably told a million times if somebody shoots at Colombo to take them out immediately. No hesitation. He just did his job. Not smart with a dozen cops right there but he got away with it in the chaos somehow.

If you were the government would you do it this way? I wouldn't. Id snipe him from a distance completely unseen. They'd think it was the Gallo's either way.