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Re: Who Really Killed Joe Colombo? [Re: NYMafia] #1005200
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I still think it was a black revolution type attack. Them being angry that Joe Colombo hijacked their civil rights league shit. They consider Italians as white and the IACRL was a slap in the face to the black civil rights events of the 60s. They hype up Johnson, the black woman with him was Assatta Shakur aka JoAnne Chesimard. She slipped away. There has to be more photos of the woman around that day. I know the wiseguys were passing around a photo asking questions about her and johnson after it happened. Colombo's league was losing power, the other mobs had pulled their support.

Re: Who Really Killed Joe Colombo? [Re: NYMafia] #1005201
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Originally Posted by NYMafia
Even Joe's own son, Anthony Colombo, stated that his personal gut feelings was that the FBI was behind the conspiracy to shoot his father.

But he made sure to make those explosive allegations at the very end of his life. He was already sick, and he didn't give a fuck anymore.

Notice that he never dared spout that while he was still young, and active in the streets. For fear of reprisal from the feds.... Or worse!!

He and his entire personal blood family were spooked by what happened to his dad for speaking out against the FBI. Neither he, brother Joe Jr., brother Vincent, his sisters or mom ever dared speak out the way he did at the end..... they all kept their feelings deep in their belly. Why??

THAT, in and of itself, showed you where things were REALLY at. They shit their pants over that reality.

and not 1 Colombo member, out of over 150 made guys at that time. REALLY knew what was what. But under their breath, more than one whispered the same thing.

That they felt it was the Federal Bureau of Investigation.... Period!

Of course his son would blame the FBI, it was his families arch enemy since the 60s when Joe became boss. The FBI? Nah. If it was the CIA I might believe it. JFK threatened to splinter it into a thousand pieces. Colombo was no JFK and the FBI is no CIA

Re: Who Really Killed Joe Colombo? [Re: NYMafia] #1005208
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What’s everyone’s opinion on the fact Joe Colombo was paying 6k a week Juice to Carl Gambino???

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A March 1986 raid on DiBernardo's office seized alleged "child pornography and financial records." As "a result of the Postal Inspectors seizures [a federal prosecutor] is attempting to indict DiBernardo on child pornography violations" according to an FBI memo dated May 20, 1986.
Thousands of pages of FBI Files that document his involvement in Child Porn
https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/star-distributors-ltd-46454/
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/0...s-Miporn-investigation-of/7758361252800/
https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/1526052/united-states-v-dibernardo/
Re: Who Really Killed Joe Colombo? [Re: Louiebynochi] #1005217
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Originally Posted by Louiebynochi
What’s everyone’s opinion on the fact Joe Colombo was paying 6k a week Juice to Carl Gambino???


Joe was Carlo's bitch. This was known and accepted

Re: Who Really Killed Joe Colombo? [Re: ralphie_cifaretto] #1005227
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Originally Posted by ralphie_cifaretto
Originally Posted by Louiebynochi
What’s everyone’s opinion on the fact Joe Colombo was paying 6k a week Juice to Carl Gambino???


Joe was Carlo's bitch. This was known and accepted



So what do we think the outcome was when the bitch told his master “no, I won’t step down from the league,it’s my baby” one week before he was murdered?
???

Last edited by Louiebynochi; 02/14/21 09:51 AM.

A March 1986 raid on DiBernardo's office seized alleged "child pornography and financial records." As "a result of the Postal Inspectors seizures [a federal prosecutor] is attempting to indict DiBernardo on child pornography violations" according to an FBI memo dated May 20, 1986.
Thousands of pages of FBI Files that document his involvement in Child Porn
https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/star-distributors-ltd-46454/
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/0...s-Miporn-investigation-of/7758361252800/
https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/1526052/united-states-v-dibernardo/
Re: Who Really Killed Joe Colombo? [Re: Louiebynochi] #1005228
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What is juice? Loanshark interest or tribute in this case? My opinion of one LCN boss paying tribute to another LCN boss doesn't look good on that family. Damn, so he was handing over $30k a month.

Re: Who Really Killed Joe Colombo? [Re: NYMafia] #1005229
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Maybe he was just paying back a shylock loan? I don't think it's unusual at all for people from one family to do business with another. Especially not in NYC with five families.

Re: Who Really Killed Joe Colombo? [Re: Fleming_Ave] #1005234
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Originally Posted by Fleming_Ave
Maybe he was just paying back a shylock loan? I don't think it's unusual at all for people from one family to do business with another. Especially not in NYC with five families.



Part of the agreement when Gambino got Colombo the boss spot was Gambino loaned him 1.2 million. He paid 6k a week on that for a dozen years.....

Last edited by Louiebynochi; 02/14/21 02:03 PM.

A March 1986 raid on DiBernardo's office seized alleged "child pornography and financial records." As "a result of the Postal Inspectors seizures [a federal prosecutor] is attempting to indict DiBernardo on child pornography violations" according to an FBI memo dated May 20, 1986.
Thousands of pages of FBI Files that document his involvement in Child Porn
https://www.muckrock.com/foi/united-states-of-america-10/star-distributors-ltd-46454/
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/0...s-Miporn-investigation-of/7758361252800/
https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/1526052/united-states-v-dibernardo/
Re: Who Really Killed Joe Colombo? [Re: Fleming_Ave] #1005235
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Originally Posted by Fleming_Ave
Maybe he was just paying back a shylock loan? I don't think it's unusual at all for people from one family to do business with another. Especially not in NYC with five families.


It's not unusual. Especially back in those days. I'm sure from one boss to another, the wealthy Gambino provided monies at 1/4 point weekly to Colombo. The annual equivalent of 26%. A mere pittance by comparison to the 1/2 point, 3/4 point, or even 1% he charged in turn to his capo regimes weekly.

The capos push that same money out to their regime soldiers and "well thought of" associates anywhere from a 0.5 point to 1.5 points. And of course they in turn loan it out from 1.5% all the way to 5% weekly to their "retail" borrowers.

Everybody makes out.

If Joe was borrowing say $1-Million from Carlo. It cost him anywhere from $2500 to $5000 weekly. He collected from $5000 to $15,000 weekly.

I'm certain that Joe C wasn't complaining one bit LOL

Re: Who Really Killed Joe Colombo? [Re: Louiebynochi] #1005257
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Originally Posted by Louiebynochi
Originally Posted by ralphie_cifaretto
Originally Posted by Louiebynochi
What’s everyone’s opinion on the fact Joe Colombo was paying 6k a week Juice to Carl Gambino???


Joe was Carlo's bitch. This was known and accepted



So what do we think the outcome was when the bitch told his master “no, I won’t step down from the league,it’s my baby” one week before he was murdered?
???

I thought Colombo told Gambino that this was his last rally,his swam song. And after this he was gonna let Nat Marcone run it.

Re: Who Really Killed Joe Colombo? [Re: Louiebynochi] #1005258
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Originally Posted by Louiebynochi
Originally Posted by Fleming_Ave
Maybe he was just paying back a shylock loan? I don't think it's unusual at all for people from one family to do business with another. Especially not in NYC with five families.



Part of the agreement when Gambino got Colombo the boss spot was Gambino loaned him 1.2 million. He paid 6k a week on that for a dozen years.....

Half a point interest is a pretty good rate. Especially when you loan it out to other wiseguys at a point, point in a half or 2 points.

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