This show is getting better and better!







Don Cardi

You've obviously misinterpreted my posts. I would never make a joke out of genocide. The joke Pat, is on you!

Geoff, I really think that you should start charging admission to this thread! The entertainment factor is really getting up there!


Don Cardi

Then make a thread to 'joke on me.' This isn't the place.

WOW! How does it feel Pat? How does it feel when you start a thread about one subject and someone twists it into a whole different topic? Sound familiar?


Don Cardi

Bush, despite what you say,always included genocide as one of the reasons to enter Iraq. Here are some excerpts from the presidents speeches in the lead up to Iraq.

Bush to the United Nations, September 12 2002-
"Last year, the U.N. Commission on Human rights found that Iraq continues to commit "extremely grave violations" of human rights and that the regime's repression is "all pervasive." Tens of thousands of political opponents and ordinary citizens have been subjected to arbitrary arrest and imprisonment, summary execution, and torture by beating, burning, electric shock, starvation, mutilation, and rape. Wives are tortured in front of their husbands; children in the presence of their parents -- all of these horrors concealed from the world by the apparatus of a totalitarian state. "

Bush, February 26 2003-
"The first to benefit from a free Iraq would be the Iraqi people, themselves. Today they live in scarcity and fear, under a dictator who has brought them nothing but war, and misery, and torture. Their lives and their freedom matter little to Saddam Hussein -- but Iraqi lives and freedom matter greatly to us."

Once again Pat, why was it wrong for Bush to free the Iraqi people, while at the same time it is wrong for him to not go into the Sudan?

Because PAT says so, that's why!


Don Cardi

I wish Bush would ignore me . (with 65 Million)
Which is it? Which statement is true then.
Did he ignore or did he give 65 million?


So 65 Million isn't enough for you. Did you ever stop to think that much money may be a great amount of money in that coutry. Maybe the people living there only make $100.00 a whole year over there! Maybe even less. So 65 million is more ten enough.

Boy, it is so easy to throw out bullshit when you know you don't have it to give.

Reminds you of Kerry- Tax the rich, make the rich bastards pay for everything and everybody. It is so easy to say " Let the other guy pay, Let the other guy go over and work."

I wonder what Pat would say if the Goverment took 2/3 of his check each week for his fair share of running and saving the world. Would he still work as hard at old Arby's or would say f*Ck it and stay home. He bitch enough about only making $6.60 an hour. How about clearing $2.20 an hour after they get thru with you.

What did the papers and media organizations say? WMD. Bush told the American people WMDs. There is nothing wrong with freeing the Iraqi people. There is something wrong with changing the reason of entering Iraq. He said WMDs was the main reason we entered Iraq. We find out their are none and Bush wants us to think he actually cares about the Iraqi people. -Pat

Boy, it is so easy to throw out bullshit when you know you don't have it to give.
[/b][/quote]I take it that you speak from past experience.

Ok. That was completely irrelevant, but um, alright...

Ah, so you would rather take out 2/3 of a part time worker's pay check than 1/4 of someone who is making over a million? And you wonder why there is poverty and welfare.

Originally posted by Patrick:

"I take it that you speak from past experience."

Yes, I have been reading your posts for some time now.

Is it that hard to hit the quote button?

Ah, so you would rather take out 2/3 of a part time worker's pay check than 1/4 of someone who is making over a million? And you wonder why there is poverty and welfare. [/QB][/quote]There you go, don't make me pay towards anything. I'm poor! :rolleyes: Let the other poor guy who is busting his balls pay the whole shot, just because he is making good money. Boy, so easy to say, but it still stinks of bullshit. Brings us right back to where we started with you passing the buck to someone but yourself, but opening your mouth wide telling others what should and shouldn't be done. :rolleyes:
What if they said to all the people: You don't pay, you don't get to right to say what happens to the money.
You don't own property you can't vote on budgets.

Then you would hear them cry, thats not fair.

Why do I have to do everything your way?

Popcorn Please

Pocket change for this particuliar cause huh? What about your total charitable contributions?

Maybe your fellow BBers can follow your leadership and give at the same level?

Part, maybe you should get him involed in a Boy Scout group. That would teach him some things, I am sure!

Ok, this show started out really good. I was sitting back, relaxing, eating my popcorn, waiting for the great ending, and the show just fizzed out. Geoff, I want a refund!


Don Cardi

Here is a couple of Arbys coupons- for your troubles, hope you come again! Thank you and have a great day.

Do you want fries with that?

Pocket change for this particuliar cause huh? What about your total charitable contributions?

Maybe your fellow BBers can follow your leadership and give at the same level? [/b][/quote]I already did, I left a tip at the service counter this morning.

Pat, I think you've made alot of valid points. But going into Sudan right now is a terrible idea. Don't you think we're over extended already. Why fight another battle that's not ours? Why does Bush and the U.S. have to do everything? Why don't the other countries in Africa or any country that has an actual interest in Sudan do something? Where's the U.N.?

Why is it a surprise that Bush is ignoring Sudan?

Last time I checked, there weren't any oil fields there.

Mick

Then I suggest you check again

Here we go again.

Do they or don't they.

Or are some people just saying things to knock Bush again. Or looking for an argument?

Mick, DMC, what ARE the facts?
Talk is cheap, how about the facts.


OK FOLKS, my question is this, why isn't any other country jumping in then?

Do they think it is a no win problem?

Perhaps because Yankees say freedom and rights after every other sentence--especially on this board when faced with a dilemma they cannot defend. So by some boastful falseness in self-proclaiming freedom lovers, you've brought it upon yourself as a nation responsible for the world's freedom.

You "freed" Iraq, why not Sudan?

And for the record, DMC is correct, Sudan does have oil fields; but obviously not the kind worthy of bombing the country to bits for, a la the Middle East.

"The more you understand freedom, the less you possess it."

Mick

Compared to countries in the Middle East, wise guy. -Pat


Compared to the middle east?

Shit, there isn't many who have that much oil when you "Compared to the Middle East, wise Guy."

Most of the people in the USA are poor! :rolleyes:

If you compare us to Bill Gates! :rolleyes:

Is the kind of logic that they are teaching in the schools these days?

Perhaps, but at least they're teaching how to write proper sentences these days.

That was a petty coment, but no more petty than these sly little goddamned digs each and every time Pat posts a thought requiring a lot of thought. Whenever he does address serious, perhaps unanswerable, questions, you guys jump on the bandwagon with funny little in-jokes and sly comments about entertainment value and all that kind of bullshit.

All this damned fascism is beginning to be a real turn off round here.

Mick

Well Capo, when some of us do reply with facts, Pat tends to ignore them.

Case in point, my post above where I posted quotations from Bush speeches before the war in Iraq, where he mentions the oppression of the Iraqi people as one of the reasons to go to war. Pat, rather than responding to this, just restates his earlier post that "Bush only said we were going to war for WMD". What's the point of responding to Pat with anything other than petty comments when he ignores actual evidence?

Well, if you know that they have oil, then do you know who gets that oil?

You mention the Middle East and Bombing countries ect.
Mick do you know who gets most of the oil from say Iraq?

Now the most important question Mick. Who does the United States get most of their oil imports from?

Perhaps, but at least they're teaching how to write proper sentences these days.

That was a petty coment, but no more petty than these sly little goddamned digs each and every time Pat posts a thought requiring a lot of thought. Whenever he does address serious, perhaps unanswerable, questions, you guys jump on the bandwagon with funny little in-jokes and sly comments about entertainment value and all that kind of bullshit.

All this damned fascism is beginning to be a real turn off round here.

Mick [/b][/quote]So I guess we have found the real issue here.

You better not fly on a plane with Don Cardi.




"Perhaps, but at least they're teaching how to write proper sentences these days."

By the way nice jab mick. Pat says the same thing when he has nothing real to say. :p


All this damned fascism is beginning to be a real turn off round here.
There is always the oscars tonight.
Oh wait, that is just more Americians beating their chests and boasting to the world. You better play it safe and read a book tonight.

Baggins, are we supposed to believe everything Bush says? Politicians have lied since the Roman Empire. I thought everybody knew that.

'Son, I don't care where your oil comes from.

Mick