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Philly Mob induction taped #1000506
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Per Dave S. at Fox 29. Dom introduced as capo and the entire induction ceremony is caught on tape.

Re: Philly Mob induction taped [Re: Ravens410] #1000507
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Who were the guys being made ?

Re: Philly Mob induction taped [Re: Ravens410] #1000509
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Not sure, but the tapes have pretty much the entire organization mapped out with boss, underboss and all the capos.

Re: Philly Mob induction taped [Re: Ravens410] #1000510
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ravens, does it say whether ap wore a wire to it? or did they bug the house? in the past these sites have said there were 5 new..my guesses..sm, ab, ds, ta, jb....

Re: Philly Mob induction taped [Re: Ravens410] #1000511
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It says FBI informant was wired up so probably assume it’s AP. I’m not going to speculate on who was being made but your first three guesses are very likely.

Re: Philly Mob induction taped [Re: Ravens410] #1000512
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ravens , you got a copy of the memo? or when u say it, dod u mean shratt report? of the 5 last when is a shot in the dark on my part..

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Re: Philly Mob induction taped [Re: Ravens410] #1000513
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Can you imagine what Carlo would say if he were alive and one of his capos said, Hold on C, just have to hit record or, just have to submit this instagram post?

Re: Philly Mob induction taped [Re: Ravens410] #1000514
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Second time this happened in Philly. In also happened in 1990 when George Freselone taped his own induction ceremony that took place in the bronx believe it or not.

Re: Philly Mob induction taped [Re: Ravens410] #1000516
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Woah, that's big news. Thanks Ravens. Can't wait to hear it.

Re: Philly Mob induction taped [Re: Ravens410] #1000520
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Entire ceremony caught on tape and some people will probably still say the case is weak sauce.


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Re: Philly Mob induction taped [Re: Ravens410] #1000522
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What does that prove? Just a few guys preparing for a role in a movie. So easy to defend. I'm not worried

#FreeStevie
#FreeDom

Re: Philly Mob induction taped [Re: Ravens410] #1000527
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Schratweiser said it’s 4-5 guys getting made. Also, surprisingly said the charges seem weak as the indictment reads. Went on to say that he expects more charges in the coming weeks. Tough to call at this point, but if there’s that much tape, plea bargains are coming. Unless they flip one of these guys. At this point, they have no witness to take the stand against these guys

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Originally Posted by ralphie_cifaretto
What does that prove? Just a few guys preparing for a role in a movie. So easy to defend. I'm not worried

#FreeStevie
#FreeDom


Why would you be worried? You’re not the one that’s gotta do a few years.

A taped ceremony with the guys being charged equals racketeering. That’s where the longer sentences are born.

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Re: Philly Mob induction taped [Re: Ravens410] #1000530
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RiCO was designed for cases like this. Without RICO it’s a dud. With it, it’s check and mate. Hate to say it but they are fucked.

Re: Philly Mob induction taped [Re: Ravens410] #1000532
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yup..rico conspiracy with both leadership and managerial sentence enhancers, with many defendents having priors...not a walk in the park

Re: Philly Mob induction taped [Re: Ravens410] #1000536
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Feds aren’t happy about East Coast indictment and Narducci case being complete busts(no pun intended) they are gonna come hard for the top and we all know Merlino is their PE#1!

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Originally Posted by Jshov31
RiCO was designed for cases like this. Without RICO it’s a dud. With it, it’s check and mate. Hate to say it but they are fucked.


This RICO doesn't even include any murders. The one 20 years ago did and the worst they got was 10 years.(even though murder counts not proven) their will be plea bargain a. Mazzone and Grande won't do over 5 years.

Re: Philly Mob induction taped [Re: ColonelReb] #1000543
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colonel..you want to bet on it? they beat the murders as you said, joey beat the dope in that case also, so no drugs, joey got FOURTEEN as well as george got 14, joey had fed priors, george didnt...stevie has a fed prior...dom has the dope, there is no way the feds are allowing dom to plead without the dope being included, no fuckin way, dope and leadership role in it,, first glance i thought dom was 8 to 10..im thinking low teens now in a plea, stevie 8 to 10..

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Originally Posted by Biggie
colonel..you want to bet on it? they beat the murders as you said, joey beat the dope in that case also, so no drugs, joey got FOURTEEN as well as george got 14, joey had fed priors, george didnt...stevie has a fed prior...dom has the dope, there is no way the feds are allowing dom to plead without the dope being included, no fuckin way, dope and leadership role in it,, first glance i thought dom was 8 to 10..im thinking low teens now in a plea, stevie 8 to 10..

It's a different world than 20 years ago. You can have these guys dead to rights, that's fine. These juries today are very unpredictable. Out of 12 ppl at least 1 or 2 will vote not guilty just because they hate the police. Just look at the cases in the last 10 years. Grande won't do 10. They can't put Persiano on the stand.

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Getting the feeling this doesn’t make it to trial. Feds will lean on some of these guys for a few months to see if they can flip one or two of them. Heard some of the bigger name attorneys are in on this one. Mazzone/McMonagle, someone hired greg Pagano. Always interesting to see some of these made guys that can’t even afford a lawyer. I remember Frank Gambino going to trial with a public defender years ago.

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https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1339101/download

The indictment. Doesn’t look good at all for Grande.

Re: Philly Mob induction taped [Re: Ravens410] #1000557
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I'm surprised at how little money these guys are bringing in. This is embarrassing. Phil Narducci is a millionaire and these guys can barely generate five figures.

Re: Philly Mob induction taped [Re: ralphie_cifaretto] #1000559
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ralph, phil is a horrible example, born on 3rd base, doesnt mean he hit a triple..like sayin your an embarrassmen compared to conrad h. hilton...

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Not really. Yeah his dad had money, but Phil is a good businessman still. Stevie Mazzone probably made a lot of money in the '90s, but he blew every cent. Joe Pung is another good example. He's loaded too

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Risking jail time for chump change too, why would a made guy be selling 87 pills hand to hand? These idiots are no better than the gangbangers standing on the corner in North Philly selling dime bags of rock.


Yeah, Little Pussy. You think he's going to fuck with Big Pussy? My Pussy? Tony Soprano, 1999
Re: Philly Mob induction taped [Re: ralphie_cifaretto] #1000564
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Originally Posted by ralphie_cifaretto
I'm surprised at how little money these guys are bringing in. This is embarrassing. Phil Narducci is a millionaire and these guys can barely generate five figures.

Narducci’s father and other family also put money in the right places. His dad had big money on the street when he passed from what I’ve heard and I am sure Phil and Frank collected %100 percent of it. Also has two great restaurants in Phillips Steak(best cheesesteak in city IMO and then Chickies has made a killing since opening from everything I have heard. His brother and sis passed away so he is probably main benefactor of both places.

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When they use "Person #", does it mean it is an informant ?

Do we know who were the people inducted in that 2015 ceremony ? Reading the indiectment, it seems that Daniel Castelli and Kenneth Arabia were made but i am not sure.

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good businessman? cuz he has a restaurant? maybe he is maybe he isnt..his father was STUFFED and left them all real real good, lot easier to take legit risks with 5 to 10 behind u..not saying that stevie etal were smart here, but the phil compatison dont work..born on 3rd, cant yell yaaay i hit a triple...

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mchang, phil hasnt been involved with phils for a while..so no on that, sues son is the main benefactor...no doubt he did smart things with the money..if u gave me 350k to come back with a sports car, id come back with a ferrari also.

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Originally Posted by Malavita
When they use "Person #", does it mean it is an informant ?

Do we know who were the people inducted in that 2015 ceremony ? Reading the indiectment, it seems that Daniel Castelli and Kenneth Arabia were made but i am not sure.





Person #1 is a NJ loan shark who was being shaken down, Persons #2 and #3 ran a NJ/ Philly bookmaking operation and were also being shaken down, Person #4 was involved with Victor DeLuca in shaking down a loan shark customer known as S.P., and Person #5 is Anthony Persiano.

Castelli and Arabia are associates. Sonny Mazzone was inducted at the 2015 ceremony, the others are unknown. Anthony Persiano was inducted in the late-2000s by Nicky Scarfo Jr when the Scarfos were planning on taking over the family. It's unclear how he and Sam Piccolo went from the Scarfos to the other Philly guys (Persiano, Sam Piccolo, Salvatore Pelullo and another individual were made by Scarfo Jr). It looks like Persiano was at that 2015 ceremony. It's possible he was re-inducted there or it's possible he was just present for it like Grande and Steve Mazzone.

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