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Re: Vito and Baby Michael
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01/22/05 06:11 PM
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I don't know what the exact translation is, but as you say, he was saying " Michael, your father loves you, very much, very much." That scene combined with the scene on the train leaving Italy where Vito is holding Michael, the scene in GF I when Vito looks out the window and sees Michael, and Vito's refusal to take the family wedding picture without Michael, are good indications that FFC wanted to show that Michael was Vito's favorite son. In retrospect, if the GF trilogy was originally put in chronological order and shown that way, we would see many different signals from several scenes that indicate that Michael was Vito's favorite and it was inevitable that his favorite son would be the one to "save" the Corleone family! Don Cardi
Don Cardi Five - ten years from now, they're gonna wish there was American Cosa Nostra. Five - ten years from now, they're gonna miss John Gotti.
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Re: Vito and Baby Michael
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01/24/05 07:51 PM
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it's strange to take into account all of these signs that Vito wanted Michael to take control of the family, and then see Vito's reaction when he finds out Michael killed Sollozzo and McKluskey. You would think he would be sort of happy to see that his favorite son had finally given up on his staunch anti-mafianess and joined the ranks of the family business.
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Re: Vito and Baby Michael
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01/24/05 08:25 PM
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Originally posted by MistaMista_Tom_Hagen: it's strange to take into account all of these signs that Vito wanted Michael to take control of the family, and then see Vito's reaction when he finds out Michael killed Sollozzo and McKluskey. You would think he would be sort of happy to see that his favorite son had finally given up on his staunch anti-mafianess and joined the ranks of the family business. Let us remember the conversation between him and Michael in the garden AFTER Michael returns from Italy. Vito tells him that he never wanted this for him. He wanted him to be a Senator or a Governer. Michael was like the "independant" son who wanted to make his own way in life, on his own. Out of all the sons, Michael had the traits that young Vito had, in that he, like young Vito, would not allow anyone to choose or shape his destiny. Like young Vito it would have to be of his own choosing. Yes Vito wanted his favorite son to stay by his side and allow him to guide him, but Vito's intentions were for a legitmate life for Michael, with Vito's guidance of course. Vito showed his disgust at his other sons when he comes home from the hospital and asks "where's Michael" and they tell him that Michael was the one who killed McClusky and Sollozo! It was not the guidance that he had in mind for Michael, but because he, Vito, was not around to put a stop to this, his other son's had now allowed Michael to take the path that Vito had not wanted him to and this all must have went through Vito's mind when they told him that it was Michael who did it! He wanted his son to stay close to him and seek out his father's guidance, but Vito would have never allowed Michael to take the path that he had chosen for himself had he been healthy and around. Don Cardi
Don Cardi Five - ten years from now, they're gonna wish there was American Cosa Nostra. Five - ten years from now, they're gonna miss John Gotti.
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Re: Vito and Baby Michael
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01/25/05 12:11 PM
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Originally posted by olivant: Thanks, Babe! You're welcome! DC - I must agree with your assessment. Remember, the Don wanted legitimacy for those family members that he felt were capable. He knew Sonny and Fredo's limitations, and he knew that the life was their fate. However, he had higher hopes for Michael, and even Tom. However, Vito also knew that every man has his destiny, and although this wasn't the life he would've chosen for his sons, he knew that this was what they were meant to do.
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