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Re: Mobsters Movie
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07/19/05 09:52 PM
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I thought this movie was pretty mediocre overall. It took some liberties with the facts, but that wasn't a fatal flaw. The flaw was that the acting was unconvincing, and the story line dragged. As to your question: Luciano was a boss in Masseria's family. Maranzano flattered, cajoled and eventually tortured Luciano into betraying his boss. After Luciano arranged for Masseria's death, Maranzano divided the New York Mafia into five "regimes" and put a "caporegime" over each one. He rewarded Luciano by making him the caporegime over what had been Masseria's family. BUT... ...all these caporegimes were to report to one capo di tutti capi--Maranzano himself. They, and all the people under them, were to provide Maranzano with a monthly cash tribute. Most of them didn't want that arrangement. That's when Luciano arranged for Maranzano's assassination. After that, he was smart enough not to declare himself capo di tutti capi. Instead, he created the Commission, and all five families became independent entities, deciding common problems at Commission meetings.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: Mobsters Movie
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07/20/05 02:50 AM
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Originally posted by olivant: For one thing, it is unlikely that Capone would have been in on any incipient Commission meeting since he was wrapped up in his tax evasion trial and would be in federal prison within a year. According to Joe Bonanno in his autobiography, "A Man of Honor," Luciano invited Capone to sit on the Commission. He didn't say that Capone actually attended a Commission meeting, but it was possible. Maranzano was assassinated on September 10, 1931. Capone's last day of freedom was October 24, 1931, following his conviction in his tax evasion trial. So, it was possible that, if a Commission meeting were held between those two dates, Capone could have attended. But I doubt it.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: Mobsters Movie
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07/20/05 02:01 PM
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Originally posted by Don Cardi: Leave it to hollywood to make people think that Luciano was seeking revenge on Maranzano because Maranzano had mistreated Luciano's father and manhandled his mother. That kind of fact twisting is what bothered me most about the movie.
Don Cardi Yeah, that was cheap sentimentalizing at its worst. Luciano had business reasons to whack Maranzano. And he may have known that Maranzano was planning to whack him. Also, neither Luciano nor Lansky nor Siegel were anywhere near Maranzano when he was whacked. The hit, arranged by Lansky, was carried out by Samuel (Red) Levine and a gang of killers unknown to Maranzano.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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