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Re: second mafia sample, need help
#190949
04/18/05 04:40 PM
04/18/05 04:40 PM
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Moscarelli
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Sounds to me like the first American turncoat, Joseph Valachi, exposing the Mafia to the Senate back in '67. For more info on this and Joe Valachi, I suggest you buy The Valachi Papers by Peter Maas. I hope I helped.
"The toe you stepped on yesterday may be attached to the ass you have to kiss today." -Former Mayor of Providence, RI, Vincent "Buddy" Cianci
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Re: second mafia sample, need help
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04/18/05 05:21 PM
04/18/05 05:21 PM
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charlu
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you help me so much, really thanks sorry if i abuse but... can you write exactly the text? i don't understand all, my english is bad but many thanks charlu
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Re: second mafia sample, need help
#190951
04/18/05 05:44 PM
04/18/05 05:44 PM
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Sure no problem. Here ya go: Joe: Then he pricks your finger.
Senator: Who?
Joe: The Godfather.
Senator: He pricks your finger?
Joe: He pricks your finger, with a needle, makes a little blood come out...In other words, thats the expression of a blood relation. Like, where all brothers...
Senator: Thats the meaning* of blood.
Joe: Thats right.
Senator: Then what happened?
Joe: Again they said some words in Italian, but I knew what it meant.
Senator: In other words you are saying these words while they are burning the paper.
Joe: Thats right, yes, this is the way I burn if I expose this organization. Gee, I'm such a nice guy... *I am not sure about this word. It sounds a little like meaning, and it makes sense this way, though I am not too sure that this is what he said. See, even us Americans can't understand the language sometimes.
"The toe you stepped on yesterday may be attached to the ass you have to kiss today." -Former Mayor of Providence, RI, Vincent "Buddy" Cianci
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Re: second mafia sample, need help
#190952
04/18/05 05:52 PM
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héhéhé really thanks man!! now i can't search in nice direction... trying to find the book on the web charlu
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Re: second mafia sample, need help
#190954
04/18/05 07:21 PM
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Bienvenu, Charlu! Joe Valachi was an American Mafioso who went to prison on a drug conviction. His boss, the Mafia Don Vito Genovese, also was in the same prison, also on a drug conviction. Valachi believed that Genovese ordered another prisoner to kill him, so he killed the other prisoner first. Now Valachi was facing a murder charge. So he became an informer for the government. He agreed to testify before a committee of the US Senate, where he revealed what he knew about the Mafia. Much of his testimony represented new information to most Americans. If you go to this site: http://www.gangrule.com/gallery/maps.html and scroll to the bottom, you will see the organization charts of the various Mafia families as they were presented at the Valachi hearings in the US Senate.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: second mafia sample, need help
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04/18/05 08:05 PM
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thanks you Turnbull i understand better the story of Valachi and the .wav i have did you know if i can find the report of this testify? i mean, the lawsuit. in internet text file the book is it based only on this testify ? charlu
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Re: second mafia sample, need help
#190956
04/18/05 09:20 PM
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I am not sure if you can find the actual legal documents anywhere. But the book explains in great detail everything about Valachi.
It is a biography/autobiography of Valachi that runs through his entire career in the Mafia and through the legal battle he became involved in. It was a very significant time in America for the Mob and changed the way Cosa Nostra would act from then on.
"The toe you stepped on yesterday may be attached to the ass you have to kiss today." -Former Mayor of Providence, RI, Vincent "Buddy" Cianci
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Re: second mafia sample, need help
#190957
04/19/05 11:02 AM
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ok ok i find titlte of report, date and a translation in french. thanks again
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Re: second mafia sample, need help
#190959
04/19/05 12:05 PM
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Originally posted by Moscarelli: No problem, charu, I hope you stick around longer... Yes, please continue to participate. We could use a French perspective here. The French are great fans of American film noir, and have made many excellent gangster and heist movies, starring superb actors like Jean Gabin, Jean Servais, Alain Delon, Jean Paul Belmondo, Yves Montand and Marcel Bozzuffi.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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