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Goodfellas Questions #185813
11/08/03 04:41 PM
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Robert CK Offline OP
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1.They never show Henry killing anyone in the movie. Why!?!? Is it because if they did that it would be like Henry confessing, and he would have to go to jail or something?

2.What was up with Mickie Two-Times? Why did he say everything two times?

3.How did they find out Tommy killed that made guy.(I forget his name)

I know these are probably impossible to answer, but I thought it would be pretty funny to bring them up.


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Re: Goodfellas Questions #185814
11/08/03 06:00 PM
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I think....

1. he didnt kill anyone because I think he was just in to the lifestyle (e.g. the money,drugs,women,getting your way) he didnt really like to kill people or see them killed, think of the scene with the aprons he also kind of flinched in the trunk scene, he was ok with roughing people up though.

2. probably some kind of speech impediment, or something, kind of like stuttering but with complete words. plus the name sounds kind of cool.

3. i have no idea, mob guys can find out stuff about people better than the government. think of carlitos way, how did they know he was on the boat?

...and those are my best explainations, I hope it helps.


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Re: Goodfellas Questions #185815
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1. Henry may have killed, but he sure wasn't going to admit it to Nicholas Pileggi (author of "Wiseguy") or to the producers of "Goodfellas." In fact, I thought "Goodfellas" portrayed him as almost a choirboy compared to what I've read about his real life.
2. Maybe Jimmy Two-Times had a form of speech dyslexia or a kind of Turrett's Syndrome, both of which often have unusual symptoms.
3. There were plenty of witnesses in the bar to the Batts/Tommy "shine box" shouting match. Any one of them could have gotten word back to Batts' crew. For all we know, one or more of those present at Batts' celebration may have been in his crew.


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Re: Goodfellas Questions #185816
11/09/03 01:19 PM
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Robert CK Offline OP
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Turnbull, I was kind of thinking the samething for question 1. They really did make him look like a choirboy. What did you hear about him in real life?


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Re: Goodfellas Questions #185817
11/11/03 01:59 PM
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Henry never killed anyone,nor could he,he was gutless,he once pistol whipped a yuppie
next door to karens.the movie was very
unreal to say the least,tommy was clipped
by paul vario,gambino boss paul castellano
insisted it be done,vario had no tolerance
for tommy,he hated him.Tommy was compacted
in his cadillac at varios junk yard,his
body has never been found.jimmy burke made
sure no one from the jfk heist existed
6months after the job.henry was to be next
but got arrested,he turned snitch after he
found out that varios brother tudy was gonna
kill him in tampa.
As to the other members,johnny{roastbeef}marty
the bookie and tony stabile also in on the heist
they have yet to turn up either,they were
also believed to be buried in the basement
of roberts lounge owned by jimmy burke,
which is quite funny because the 6-million
was probobly there also at one time before he
was indicted for his crimes,the bodies and money
were moved quickly upon his arrest.

Re: Goodfellas Questions #185818
11/11/03 08:07 PM
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Swedish television showed a documentary a couple of months ago, whitch Henry Hill was in. He takes the cameraman to a construction site or something, and there he confesses that he killed three people in his real life and buried them there, but that "the movie never portrayed him as a killer". He might be lying to be more interesting but I believe him.


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Re: Goodfellas Questions #185819
11/11/03 08:57 PM
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Thanks for all the information, but I'm still unsure if he killed any body or not.


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Re: Goodfellas Questions #185820
11/12/03 12:06 PM
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NO.#1-DO NOT believe anything henry says,
he would sell his mother for a dime,he is
a drunk,coke-head,pot smoking malvole,he
does nothing but lie and deceive people
around him,he never killed anyone this I
tell you without hesitation,he could not
do it,would not do it,did not do it,not
for nothin' but if the feds thought he
was even involved w/ any kind of crime
he would be history.

Re: Goodfellas Questions #185821
11/19/03 12:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Robert CK:


3.How did they find out Tommy killed that made guy.(I forget his name)

I know these are probably impossible to answer, but I thought it would be pretty funny to bring them up.
The guy killed was purportedly a member of John Gotti's crew. While this happened before Gotti became the Don, it was a serious breach of La Cosa Nostra's rules in Gotti's eyes. Word of whacking a made guy travels quickly in their lifestyle.

Re: Goodfellas Questions #185822
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Billy batts was not a member of gottis crew,
gotti was not a capo at the time of batts'
slaying,batts had just returned from
a 6 year bit in pa.he was made upon
his release by paul castellano,dellecroce
was his capo at that time,gotti was not made
capo until 81-82-while dellecroce was co-
underboss w/tommy bilotti.

Re: Goodfellas Questions #185823
11/20/03 02:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by eddietheplumber:
Billy batts was not a member of gottis crew,
gotti was not a capo at the time of batts'
slaying,batts had just returned from
a 6 year bit in pa.he was made upon
his release by paul castellano,dellecroce
was his capo at that time,gotti was not made
capo until 81-82-while dellecroce was co-
underboss w/tommy bilotti.
Interesting. I thought I read that from "Gangland" by Howard Blum. I'll have to re-check. Thanks.

Re: Goodfellas Questions #185824
11/21/03 10:48 AM
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You will not get that in gangland or
mafia dynasty,rise and fall-etc.
Those books are almost fiction as
far as the truth goes.GOTTI did not even
know who billy batts was,gotti never even
met sam gravanno until 82-83 no matter
what anyone says,one thing henry hill
did leave out of the book and movie was
that gotti in 78 was a key figure in the
lufthanza job,he supplied the van,the
license plates and the garage for the vehicle
switch,all for the sum of 250,000$.It was
a sweet piece of work,if they would have
torched the van the crew would be home free.

Re: Goodfellas Questions #185825
11/28/03 01:20 AM
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the whole movies about abuncha dead beat soldiers anyway, the only thing is its portrayed fantastically. i still like the movie, but after hearing about the truth behind the real characters it kinda makes the movie less great then when i first saw it and not knowing the real story.


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