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"Best gangster film since The Godfather" #183173
02/26/03 02:56 PM
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I have heard many different would-be film critics say that "Road to Perdition is the best gangster film since the Godfather" I just wanted to see your responses as Godfather fans. What do you think of Road to Perdtion being used in the same sentence as the classic and what did you think of the film Road to Perdtion?


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Re: "Best gangster film since The Godfather" #183174
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I would have to disagree with that statement. Best gangster film since The Godfather? Okay, yeah. Better than GoodFellas, Taxi Driver, Scarface, Casino, ect. I don't buy it.


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Re: "Best gangster film since The Godfather" #183175
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Quote:
Originally posted by Anthony Lombardi:
I would have to disagree with that statement. Best gangster film since The Godfather? Okay, yeah. Better than GoodFellas, Taxi Driver, Scarface, Casino, ect. I don't buy it.
I agree. What do you think about this critics?
Don't get me wrong I like Road to Perdition a lot, but there are a lot of films in this catagory since The Godfather these critics are overlooking.


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Re: "Best gangster film since The Godfather" #183176
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(Moving this discussion to the "Other Mob Films" forum).


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Re: "Best gangster film since The Godfather" #183177
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umm, since when is Taxi Driver a gangster film? It isn't. Its a psychotic thriller, he isnt a gangster in it.


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Re: "Best gangster film since The Godfather" #183178
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well i think imo the best besides godfather is goodfellas then the untouchables. but my fav film is scarface and donnie brasco

Re: "Best gangster film since The Godfather" #183179
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road to perdition is no where nears the Godfather...its a classi..no movie will ever be like it...its an original...road to perdition beoing the best mafia movie since the godfather is an insult to coppala's directing ablilty bc theres no comparison


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Re: "Best gangster film since The Godfather" #183180
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Best gangster film since the Godfather would have to be either "Once Upon A Time In America" or "Goodfellas". I'm partial to the first one. Then again I've practically memorized Goodfellas.
Also, I thought Road to Perdition was fantastic! But that's just the way it is in the gangster film bizz, is that it will always be compared to other gangster films. Road to Perdition is unique in how the story displayed in contrast to other gangster films.


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Re: "Best gangster film since The Godfather" #183181
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I don't like the idea of The Godfather being compared to any modern-day film. It is a classic, and Road To Perdition--although I have not seem it--must stand the test of time if is to be put with TGF in the all-time classics genre.

Also, to me, TheGF is NOT a "gangster" film. It is a Mafia film, about a crime Family. I don't like the use of the term "gangster" as it is too open, not specific enough. "Gangster" also indicates that the people in it could be anybody: gangster rappers or something (whatever they are!

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Re: "Best gangster film since The Godfather" #183182
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The best gangster movie since The Godfather; wouldn't The Godfather part II take that tittle? So shouldn't the question be the best gangster movie after The Godfather part II? I would choose Gangs Of New York, my all time favorite movie.

Road to Perdition was good; not better then The Godfather however, not to me. I highly suggest that anyone who hasn't seen Gangs Of New York to give it a try.

Re: "Best gangster film since The Godfather" #183183
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Quote:
Originally posted by Don Vercetti:
umm, since when is Taxi Driver a gangster film? It isn't. Its a psychotic thriller, he isnt a gangster in it.
Uhm, yes, it is. :rolleyes: http://www.imdb.com See what it lists it as.


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Re: "Best gangster film since The Godfather" #183184
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Nothing compares to The Godfather Trilogy. Each film is great in it's own right.


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Re: "Best gangster film since The Godfather" #183185
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Quote:
Originally posted by Anthony Lombardi:
[quote]Originally posted by Don Vercetti:
[b]umm, since when is Taxi Driver a gangster film? It isn't. Its a psychotic thriller, he isnt a gangster in it.
Uhm, yes, it is. :rolleyes: http://www.imdb.com See what it lists it as.[/b][/quote]First and foremost, it isnt a gangster movie...second of all, http://www.imdb.com didn't even classify it as a gangster movie.


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Re: "Best gangster film since The Godfather" #183186
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Quote:
Originally posted by Anthony Lombardi:
[quote]Originally posted by Don Vercetti:
[b]umm, since when is Taxi Driver a gangster film? It isn't. Its a psychotic thriller, he isnt a gangster in it.
Uhm, yes, it is. :rolleyes: http://www.imdb.com See what it lists it as.[/b][/quote]I don't see how that could be listed as a gangster piece.


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Re: "Best gangster film since The Godfather" #183187
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Taxi Driver is a movie about a revolutionary, not a gangster. One who stood up to fight the scum of the world. As for RTP, very good, just bought it. It is cmparable to The Godfather but not as good.

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Re: "Best gangster film since The Godfather" #183188
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It's not a gangster movie, it's a father/son tale. And while it's good, it's not even remotely in the same league as "Goodfellas," which is the best strictly-gangster film ever made, IMO. (The GF Trilogy is not a gangster trilogy--it's a family saga with the Mafia as the defining milieu; just as "Gone With the Wind" isn't a Civil War movie--it's a family saga with the Civil War as the defining milieu.)


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Re: "Best gangster film since The Godfather" #183189
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Quote:
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It's not a gangster movie, it's a father/son tale. And while it's good, it's not even remotely in the same league as "Goodfellas," which is the best strictly-gangster film ever made, IMO. (The GF Trilogy is not a gangster trilogy--it's a family saga with the Mafia as the defining milieu; just as "Gone With the Wind" isn't a Civil War movie--it's a family saga with the Civil War as the defining milieu.)
how is TDriver a father/son movie?


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Re: "Best gangster film since The Godfather" #183190
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Quote:
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[quote]Originally posted by Turnbull:
[b]It's not a gangster movie, it's a father/son tale. And while it's good, it's not even remotely in the same league as "Goodfellas," which is the best strictly-gangster film ever made, IMO. (The GF Trilogy is not a gangster trilogy--it's a family saga with the Mafia as the defining milieu; just as "Gone With the Wind" isn't a Civil War movie--it's a family saga with the Civil War as the defining milieu.)
how is TDriver a father/son movie? [/b][/quote]He meant TGF! If Turnbull was referring to TDriver, he would have posted to your quote (this thread is not about TDriver, or at least wasn't intended to be!)
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Originally posted by MR. Turnbull It's not a gangster movie, it's a father/son tale. And while it's good, it's not even remotely in the same league as "Goodfellas," which is the best strictly-gangster film ever made, IMO. (The GF Trilogy is not a gangster trilogy--it's a family saga with the Mafia as the defining milieu; just as "Gone With the Wind" isn't a Civil War movie--it's a family saga with the Civil War as the defining milieu.)
Turnbull, you've hit the jackpot!! Goodfellas and TGF are, IMO also, incomparable, as they are totally different!

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Re: "Best gangster film since The Godfather" #183191
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I think Turnbull was reffering to RTP when he said "father/son" movie


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Re: "Best gangster film since The Godfather" #183192
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Uhh Taxi Driver has NOTHING to do with gangsters, even if iMDB had actually said it was (which they didn't), it wouldn't matter. It's NOT a gangster film.

As for Road to Perdition, haven't seen it.

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Re: "Best gangster film since The Godfather" #183193
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Best move actually containing the mafia would have to be goodfellas!


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Re: "Best gangster film since The Godfather" #183194
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Crime movie, gangster movie. I look at all mob/gangster/Mafia/crime movies as almost the same. They aren't, I know, but I look at them all as crime, being the main category.

I see them both the same. And I know I will get about twenty posts saying "they aren't the same!" Yeah, I realize that, but it's how I look at them.


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Re: "Best gangster film since The Godfather" #183195
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"Daredevil" is listed under crime, as is "Red Dragon" and "Catch Me If You Can".

They even included the 1966 "Batman" movie.

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Because what do super heros fight?

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Re: "Best gangster film since The Godfather" #183197
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Once Upon A Time in America and Goodfellas are the only two that come close to GF.


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