i just rented this movie and i thought it was good. but deniro could of been in it a little more.any of u seen this? what are your thoughts on the movie. i may buy it if i can find it anywhere

Yes, its a classic. "Cant you talk with a gun in your mouth!?"

Yeah one of Connerys better roles. But the Costner character was a little weak IMHO... but still, as Vercetti said; a Classic.

"He hits you with the knife, you come back with the gun. If Capone sends one of your people to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue. Thats the Chicago way!"

But I wouldnt compare it to Goodfellas, Scarface or The Godfather though, different kind of movie...

I got all leaped up about "Untouchables" when I learned that DeNiro was going to play Capone. Went to see it the day it opened. I was disappointed that DeNiro had so little screen time. But Connery more than made up for that.

Can someone explain this movie to me? I remember someone telling me its about cops trying to catch Capone, but that is all I know, anyoen care to explain the plot?

Connery and DeNiro made this movie perfect. It has a good storyline, but without these two people it wouldn't be a succes.

It's one of the movies that makes the police the good guys and the Mafia the bad ones (They don't tell the whole story about WHY Al Capone batted the guy in the head at the dinner party), but it did show how cruel they could be when the little girl in the beginning died. So don't expect Al Capone to be the main character. Anyway, Robert DeNiro was perfect for that role. Keven Costner played goody two shoes Elliot Ness perfectly as well. Andy Garcia was cool, but Sean Connery stole the show as the wise Irish cop who has a grudge against Italians. And the little midget accountant was funny. Good movie with a great score, but mixed fact with fiction (a shootout on top of the court where Al Capone was being tried?).
grade: A-

Al Capone batted the guy on the night of St Valentines Day Massacre. after the massacre Capone learned that the guy have plans against him(they're actually two sicilians). Capone hated disloyalty, an offense he never forgave. he hosted a party after the massacre and when midnight comes thats the time he batted the guy. the guy was defenseless coz the have to surrender their guns at the checkroom. its the old Mafia tradition, "Hospitality before Murder."

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TonyZarelli, question for you. Is your avatar the picture of that guy in American Beauty? Just a question.

I read in the crime library that he killed several guests of honor with the bat. During the dinner, he stopped smiling and everyone froze, he tied and blind-foldeed the guests and batted them one by one, then had his bodyguard shoot em each.

anyone knew the title of the song the guy sings at the opera? after they whacked Malone. grazie!

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"Untouchables" takes lots of liberties with reality. There was a real-life Eliot Ness, and he was a "goody two-shoes" whose "Untouchables" crew didn't take bribes. But Ness almost never hurt Capone because he was such a loudmouth and braggart that Capone always knew when and where the Untouchables were going to strike. And Ness and the Untouchables had nothing to do with Capone's conviction on income tax evasion charges--Elmer Irey, an Internal Revenue Service agent, did all the work in convicting Capone. Ness later became Public Safety Director of Cleveland, a position equivalent to Police Commissioner, later ran for mayor of Clevleand, and lost. He was a problem drinker and womanizer, and died young. Frank Nitti was not pushed off a roof by Ness. He and Jake (Greasy Thumb) Guzik ran the Chicago Outfit while Capone was in prison. In 1943, facing another prison term, Nitti killed himself.
The story of the baseball-bat dinner is far more interesting than depicted in the film. Scalise and Anselmi, two of the St. Valentine's Day massacre gunmen, began sucking up to Joe (Hop Toad) Giunta, head of Chicago's Unione Siciliano, which was Chicago's Mafia equivalent (Capone and his outfit were never a Mafia family). Capone was wary of the Unione as a rival outfit, and treated it with kid gloves. Scalise bragged that he, not Capone, was the most powerful man in Chicago--and Capone heard about it. Capone put Scalise and Anselmi to a test: he invited them to dinner with himself and one of his guys, Frankie Rio. Capone and Rio staged an argument at dinner, and Rio slapped Capone and walked out, without Capone retaliating. Thinking that Capone had gone soft, Scalise and Anselmi ran to Giunta the next day and offered to assassinate Capone for him. So, Capone invited Giunta (whose nickname, "Hop Toad," came from his dancing abilities), Scalise and Anselmi to the famous dinner. He baseball-batted the three but they were still alive when he finished. His bodyguards dispatched them with pistols.

Hi,
That's Ray Liotta aka Henry Hill from the movie "Goodfellas".

Sorry for butting in TonyZ but I couldn't resist answering the question. :p

I found the movie entertaining on a superficial level, but it is no great work of art like The Godfather or Goodfellas.
As Turnball stated, the film bares little resemblence with reality(other than the fact that there was a bootlegger called Al Capone, and Elliot Ness got him sent to jail for tax evasion).
But my biggest problem with the film was De Palma. I have never rated him as a director. Although he is capable of creating suspense, he also has a talent for giving films the wrong mood and atmosphear. His films often lack subtlety and he often allows events to become far too contrived. For example the scene where Ness falls off the roof, but (as luck would have it) there is a peice of scafolding sticking out at the exact place where he falls, is just too rediculous. Then there was the shoot-out at the Odessa steps. Did I say "the Odessa steps, I meant the train station. That scene was a highly exilerating peice of action, but Ness and Garcia being able to shoot all of Capone's men AND save the baby is just to improbable (in Eisenstein's Battleship Potymkin, the baby gets killed, which is what would enevitably happen in real life).
I also didn't think Connery was any good atall, but I guess that's just a matter of view point.
I think that had the film been a straight falward action film and not an attempt to re-write history, it would have been a lot better. As it stands, it is a sensationalistic peice of Hollywood film making.
However, regardless of this, I must admit that the film is very entertaining. As for DePalma, I think Carrie was the only film he really did a good job on. Did I mention that DeNiro's performance in The Untouchables is the best thing in the film.

For the record: I said that Ness had nothing to do with sending Capone to prison for tax evasion. Elmer Irey, a IRS investigator, did the job.

spoilers oggie, spoilers. I already saw it but still...

I liked the movie, but no it's not in the same class as Scarface or The Godfather.

But like Turnbull eluded to earlier, it was more a work of fiction, rather than non-fiction.

Hi,
That's Ray Liotta aka Henry Hill from the movie "Goodfellas".

Sorry for butting in TonyZ but I couldn't resist answering the question. :p [/b][/quote]heh, it's alright for you to butt in.
M.M. Floors, you think the guy in my avatar looks like Kevin Spacey? If he looks like anyone from American Beauty, he looks like the guy who films the paper bag

spoilers oggie, spoilers. I already saw it but still... [/b][/quote]gee DV, that won't affect the one's who still did'nt see the movie. . .
spoiler my foot!

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Hi,
That's Ray Liotta aka Henry Hill from the movie "Goodfellas".

Sorry for butting in TonyZ but I couldn't resist answering the question. :p [/b][/quote]heh, it's alright for you to butt in.
M.M. Floors, you think the guy in my avatar looks like Kevin Spacey? If he looks like anyone from American Beauty, he looks like the guy who films the paper bag[/b][/quote]I didn't meant Spacey (duh) I meant the guy who's dad was from the US marine Corps.

i saw The Untouchables for the first time last night and was also disappointed at the little time on screen De Niro got! i agree it's a great movie, but in no way is it a classic, IMHO (at least from my first viewing of it). on the opening credits, on seeing Enio Morricone was the music composer, i was expecting a great, suspenseful score, but in fact it was more like a Disney soundtrack IMO! the movie was like a fantasy movie and, due to my recent fascination with Goodfellas and Casino etc, thought it was a bit far-fetched. anybody else agree?

mick

Bump, just in case any of you missed my last post!

mick

true Capo, De Niro has only 10 minute appearance in the movie. when i first saw The Untouchables i did'nt noticed his short stint coz every second he was in, he gave his 110%. he was so powerful in every scene. and IMO, that 10 minute appearance ate Kevin Costner's acting. another trivia about the movie, Bobby De Niro was paid $2,000,000 in that 10 minute appearance . . .

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