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total killings / deaths in GF1 #19441
11/19/04 09:33 AM
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I recently read that there are 23 killings / deaths in GF1, but I can only (cannoli) think of 22.
1-Vito
2-Sonny
3-Luca Brasi
4-Paulie
5-Sollozzo
6-McCluskey
7-Apollonia
8-Genco
9-Bruno Tattaglia
10-Phillip Tattaglia
11-prostitute (w/ Tattaglia)
12-Strachi
13-associate (w/ Strachi)
14-elevator operator (w/ Strachi)
15-Cuneo
16-Moe Green
17-Barzini
18-body guard (Barzini)
19-chauffer (Barzini)
20-Carlo
21-Tessio
22-poor ole Khartoum
23-?????

any ideas? am I missing something obvious?
btw - only 2 died of natural causes: Vito & Genco.


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Re: total killings / deaths in GF1 #19442
11/19/04 02:13 PM
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I can think about even 2 or 3 more. Remember, when the guy is playing piano and we are shown the pictures of war, soldiers on the matresses etc.? We see newspapers' reports about gangwar, and there are photos of 2 or 3 dead men in them.


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Re: total killings / deaths in GF1 #19443
11/19/04 02:31 PM
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the horse?


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Re: total killings / deaths in GF1 #19444
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Originally posted by DonMichaelCorleone:
the horse?
The horse is Khartoum.


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Re: total killings / deaths in GF1 #19445
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Originally posted by DonMichaelCorleone:
[b] the horse?
The horse is Khartoum.


Don Cardi cool [/b]
Oh I got the horses from GF and Bronx Tale mixed up, thought the name was Kryptonite lol


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Re: total killings / deaths in GF1 #19446
11/19/04 05:38 PM
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I think I figured it out.

Moe Green is not one of the 5 families.

so if Michael killed the heads of the 5 families PLUS Moe Green then that would make up for the 1 kill.

Does that make sense?


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Re: total killings / deaths in GF1 #19447
11/19/04 05:56 PM
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Originally posted by JustMe:
I can think about even 2 or 3 more. Remember, when the guy is playing piano and we are shown the pictures of war, soldiers on the matresses etc.? We see newspapers' reports about gangwar, and there are photos of 2 or 3 dead men in them.
The guy playing the piano is Carmine Coppola. The newspaper reports were front page pictures from the New York Daily News and New York Daily Mirror during the mob wars. I don't think they count

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Re: total killings / deaths in GF1 #19448
11/20/04 02:27 AM
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What about Fabrizzo(sp)deleted scene


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Re: total killings / deaths in GF1 #19449
11/20/04 02:34 AM
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Originally posted by Mignon:
What about Fabrizzo(sp)deleted scene
I believe that was gf2 mignon


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Re: total killings / deaths in GF1 #19450
11/20/04 05:43 AM
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No, Fabrizio getting shot by Michael with his lupara gun. The "famous" shot of Michael standing holding the gun was from a deleted scene in GF1.

Re: total killings / deaths in GF1 #19451
11/20/04 05:49 AM
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Originally posted by The Scottish Don:
No, Fabrizio getting shot by Michael with his lupara gun. The "famous" shot of Michael standing holding the gun was from a deleted scene in GF1.
What about the car blowing up? was that gf1 too?


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Re: total killings / deaths in GF1 #19452
11/20/04 12:56 PM
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DonMichaelCorleone, Apollonia died in a car blast in GF1.

BTW, Tessio did not die or get killed in GF1. May be something in the novel, not in the movie.

Re: total killings / deaths in GF1 #19453
11/20/04 01:57 PM
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Originally posted by svsg:
DonMichaelCorleone, Apollonia died in a car blast in GF1.

BTW, Tessio did not die or get killed in GF1. May be something in the novel, not in the movie.
No, there is a scene where Fabrazio is blown up as well. He is walking out of his Pizzaria and the car blows up. (It was like, you blew up my wife now I blow you up)

I just don't remember if its gf1 or gf2.

It was implied that Tessio was killed. He knew he sold out the family and they took his weapon then went for a car ride with 4 other people. It is implied


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Re: total killings / deaths in GF1 #19454
11/20/04 02:00 PM
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the killing of fabrizio was left out of the movie. it was supposed to be in part two. you can only see it on the epic or saga and as a deleted scene in the dvd's. otherwise it's not shown in part 2.


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Re: total killings / deaths in GF1 #19455
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There were two Fabrizzio scenes. First was filmed for GF 1, Michael came into pizzeria himself with lupara and blasted F. But for some strange reason FFC left it out of the movie . In GF 2 he decided to make another version - F. was to be blown up in his car. But this scene also was not included.


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Re: total killings / deaths in GF1 #19456
11/20/04 04:45 PM
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I wonder why FFC didn't want to use that scene in the movie. They showed Michael getting revenge on Carlo for killing his brother, why not show him getting revenge on killing his wife?


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Re: total killings / deaths in GF1 #19457
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Originally posted by Mignon:
I wonder why FFC didn't want to use that scene in the movie. They showed Michael getting revenge on Carlo for killing his brother, why not show him getting revenge on killing his wife?
I read somewhere that they felt if they used it in gf2 that it was "too long ago"


Heck they could have had him killing Fabrazio right after Mary died in gf3 and I'd have still loved it lol


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Re: total killings / deaths in GF1 #19458
11/21/04 10:40 PM
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I might be mistaken, but werent there 2 associates with Stracchi (the guy in the elavator)?


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Re: total killings / deaths in GF1 #19459
11/22/04 02:27 AM
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Vito wasn't actually murdered.. remember? wink

Re: total killings / deaths in GF1 #19460
11/22/04 01:53 PM
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I don't think the elevator operator got killed. Watch it in slow-mo. He ducks behind the door. Clemenza fires twice. I'd bet he survived.


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Re: total killings / deaths in GF1 #19461
11/22/04 02:41 PM
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I agree, the elevator operator does survive.

Neither Vito nor Genco are murdered. So, in reality they do not count. Also, Sal Tessio is an implied killing.

Otherwise, I think the count is accurate.


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