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Face-Off: Wes Anderson vs. PTA #159385
06/05/06 08:53 PM
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The dust clears as Coca-Cola shoved Pepsi up its own vending slot(ouch! ), but a new battle brews in the horizon.

Our identities are everything, but what happens when two quite talented and respected filmmakers that are among the current crop of supreme storytellers have the same damn last name?

So folks, once and for all, who will prevail as THE best director in Hollywood named "Anderson"?



Will it be WES Anderson, the talented quirky little shit who gave the world BOTTLE ROCKET, Owen Wilson, RUSHMORE, THE ROYAL TENEBAUMS, and THE LIFE AQUATIC WITH STEVE ZISSOU.....currently has an American Mastercard commercial, and reportedly Martin Scorsese is a fan of his work. What a little shit!



or PAUL THOMAS Anderson, aka PTA to his fans, the mastermind of greatly respected pictures like BOOGIE NIGHTS, Dirk Diggler, MAGNOLIA(which ironically was quoted by someone that I've been engaged in lately within a pissy fight), PUNCH DRUNK LOVE, and he happened to give some major boasting to the great Phillip Seymour Hoffman before his Oscar and very nice M:I 3 paycheck. PTA is a man that many film buffs believe is the new Robert Altman for our times...and Altman aint even legally dead yet!

Alright folks, will it be Wes or Paul Thomas Anderson?!?!

NOTE: Before you ask, I gave the wimpy mother fucking hack that is Paul W.S. Anderson the job of referee within this fight. Either way, hes done for, at least hopefully before he gives us RESIDENT EVIL 3.

Re: Face-Off: Wes Anderson vs. PTA #159386
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Oh my God, is it even a fair fight? Wes is a talented man, but PTA is our generation's Altman, and he is our generation's Scorsese. The man is a brilliant talent, and my personal favorite director. Infact, Magnolia needs a re-viewing on my new surround sound system that I just got for my room.

As does Boogie Nights, Punch Drunk Love, and Hard Eight, in that order.

Any man who does a film about the 1970s pornography industry, in the style of Goodfellas, is the man. Paul Anderson is a far superior film-maker, no doubt to it.


"Somebody told me when the bomb hits, everybody in a two mile radius will be instantly sublimated, but if you lay face down on the ground for some time, avoiding the residual ripples of heat, you might survive, permanently fucked up and twisted like you're always underwater refracted. But if you do go gas, there's nothing you can do if the air that was once you is mingled and mashed with the kicked up molecules of the enemy's former body. Big-kid-tested, motherf--ker approved."
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Thank you LLC

Soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo PTA


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Re: Face-Off: Wes Anderson vs. PTA #159388
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This is a hard question, and for me it's a tie. Both of them have amazing filmographies with not one bad picture in them. And they're both so talented. I'll wait until they direct a few more movies to really make up my mind on them.

BTW your comment on Wes Anderson reminds me of a quote by Jim Jarmusch: "I'm so sick of that word. I reach for my revolver when I hear the word 'quirky.' Or 'edgy.' Those words are now becoming labels that are slapped on products to sell them. "

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Don Z, nice quote by a great man.....though now I'm looking behind my shoulders.

My vote has to go to PTA as well. Wes is nice and all, but PTA was an assistant for Altman on the legend's latest movie. How can Wes compete with such shit?

Re: Face-Off: Wes Anderson vs. PTA #159390
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I was actually expecting Ronnie to sway towards Wes... But I am glad to see he has gone the opposite way.

So, who else is tired of waiting for PTA's adaptation of Oil? (There Will Be Blood)


"Somebody told me when the bomb hits, everybody in a two mile radius will be instantly sublimated, but if you lay face down on the ground for some time, avoiding the residual ripples of heat, you might survive, permanently fucked up and twisted like you're always underwater refracted. But if you do go gas, there's nothing you can do if the air that was once you is mingled and mashed with the kicked up molecules of the enemy's former body. Big-kid-tested, motherf--ker approved."
Re: Face-Off: Wes Anderson vs. PTA #159391
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Quote:
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PTA is our generation's Altman, and he is our generation's Scorsese.
But Wes Anderson is this generation's Wes Anderson.


...dot com bold typeface rhetoric.
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Re: Face-Off: Wes Anderson vs. PTA #159392
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Quote:
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[quote]Originally posted by long_lost_corleone:
[b]PTA is our generation's Altman, and he is our generation's Scorsese.
But Wes Anderson is this generation's Wes Anderson. [/b][/quote]PT Anderson takes that credit too, actually. PTA isn't even human, to my knowledge. He is something greater. He's a large gluttonous viking-sort man, and he'll pillage your village, rape your women, burn your crops, poison your water supply, corruprt your children, eat your house pets, and then make an outstanding film about it.


"Somebody told me when the bomb hits, everybody in a two mile radius will be instantly sublimated, but if you lay face down on the ground for some time, avoiding the residual ripples of heat, you might survive, permanently fucked up and twisted like you're always underwater refracted. But if you do go gas, there's nothing you can do if the air that was once you is mingled and mashed with the kicked up molecules of the enemy's former body. Big-kid-tested, motherf--ker approved."
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Much like Steve Zissou.

I think both are acquired tastes; and I'd happily stay around for seconds.

What happened to Brad?


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I forgot about him.

There are too many Anderson's that hold directorial positions for me to keep track of... Although, quite a few of them are talented.


"Somebody told me when the bomb hits, everybody in a two mile radius will be instantly sublimated, but if you lay face down on the ground for some time, avoiding the residual ripples of heat, you might survive, permanently fucked up and twisted like you're always underwater refracted. But if you do go gas, there's nothing you can do if the air that was once you is mingled and mashed with the kicked up molecules of the enemy's former body. Big-kid-tested, motherf--ker approved."
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Let's not forget Arne Anderson, too.

Though he was a wrestler, not a filmmaker.


...dot com bold typeface rhetoric.
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PTA


And even on here you have to take your little stab? wow, grow up.


"strange things happen all the time, and so it goes and so it goes. and the book says, 'we may be through with the past, but the past is not through with us'" - MAGNOLIA
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From what I've seen, P.T. Anderson.

Best filmmaker of today IMO is Jim Jarmusch.


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I don't think they should be compared. Their styles are nothing alike at all.

Having said that, I think I like Wes Anderson more, but Paul Thomas Anderson could prove to be a better filmmaker.

PTA hasn't released a film in four years. He is very inconsistent in stlye. "Hard Eight" (Sydney) was an excellent, low-key character-study, far different from what he would attempt in the future. "Boogie Nights" was brilliant, and one of my personal favorite films. I'll never get tired of it. I used to think "Magnolia" was the greatest film of the 90's, until I saw "Short Cuts", and explored the work of Altman. "Punch Drunk Love" was an odd film, but one I really enjoyed.

Wes Anderson seems to be getting more ambitious with his projects, but they aren't necessarily getting better. "Bottle Rocket" was a lot of fun, and a very innocent film. I can't decide which of his other three films I like more. Though unlike PTA, he seems to have more of a trademark quality about his films. "Rushmore" told the story of a troubled teen through the medium of theater; "The Royal Tenenbaums" told the story of a disfunctional family through the medium of a novel; and "The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou" was told through the medium of a documentary, yet it wasn't a mockumentary. His films are hard to define, but endlessly unique, and that is why I like him more.

Though PTA's next film sounds very promising.


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Quote:
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PTA


And even on here you have to take your little stab? wow, grow up.
No offense friend, but your zingers need some steroids.


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